Further to my post earlier this week when I said ?I hadn?t seen a decent glamour girl in the Sport for about 10 years.? Well, would you credit it? I open today?s Sunday? Sport to be confronted by the stunning Debbie Corrigan. What a doll! ? The sort of girl who wouldn?t look out of place at ?The Ambassador?s Ball? munching on a ?Ferrero Roche.? The sort of girl you?d actually want on your arm as you stepped out of an evening. A gorgeous girl with some class and style ? remember those? It?s a shame today?s girls have forgotten how to dress, do their makeup and which way it is to the nearest hairdresser?s shop.
Also an honorable mention to ?Jordan? on the front page ? a another gorgeous girl, with some style, but I fear, little class. And just to shatter any lingering illusions you may have there?s a picture of her, inset top left, acting lairy in some pub. The rest of today?s Sport consisted of the usual Sport fare of celebrity and common slappas acting lairy down at their favourite tattoo and piercing parlours. However, there was intelligent and objective editorial comment, from the man Sullivan himself, on the case of ?Gary Hart? ? the sleepy Land Rover driver.
There?s another interesting and relevant (to my earlier comments) article in ?The Sunday Times News Review? ?Promiscuity Blues? by India Knight ? page 4. She bemoans the current mindless, unattractive, slappa and ?ladette? culture prevalent amongst young women at the moment and suggests that girls are copying celebs like Zoe Ball, and Denise Van Outen, acting lairy on TV, who, in real life are not really like that. They?re just putting on a show, a front. India goes on to suggest that, sadly, their imitators amongst the general public aren?t bright enough to see that.
The upshot is, I?ve resolved not to cancel my Sunday Sport just yet.
T.T.T.
Today's Papers
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woodgnome
Re: Today's Papers
why you have to keep posting the same old tired, derogatory, opinions about the "common slappas" of today (under about 10 different names) i don't know.
there are more interesting matters to dwell upon - although, admittedly, not in the sunday spurt.
there are more interesting matters to dwell upon - although, admittedly, not in the sunday spurt.
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Two Toungue Ted
Re: Today's Papers
Woodgnome, I?ll address the points you have raised and justify my stance.
It is because on a personal level I find the slappa phenomena extremely annoying, unattractive and distasteful. On a professional level it is having and adverse effect on the adult industry and my livelihood. I know this may pain you Woodnome, but the fact is, as a sometime producer of adult entertainment I find that it is difficult sell movies featuring said 'slappa' types. Punters are not particularly interested - and I'm taking about the adult entertainment buying public here, real guys who pay our wages - not the twenty or so 'enthusiasts who contribute to the forum.
A derogatory term? Yes, of course. If the girls and the mainstream media who spawned this phenomena continue to think it's big and it's clever to behave in a loud, vulgar, obnoxious manner, while sporting haircuts that look like they were inflicted on them by an IRA punishment squad, they will think everything is fine and dandy. However, if they start to get the message that not everyone is impressed by this look/behaviour maybe they will change their ways (though I doubt it. The cat is out of the bag.)
You always leap to the defence of the slappa phenomena when anyone dares to criticise it (not just me) But do you really find being loud, vulgar, obnoxious, acting like one of the lads, while adopting a slightly androgynous look are endearing female traits? Or, are you just doing your best to be politically correct?
Your humble servant,
T.T.T.
It is because on a personal level I find the slappa phenomena extremely annoying, unattractive and distasteful. On a professional level it is having and adverse effect on the adult industry and my livelihood. I know this may pain you Woodnome, but the fact is, as a sometime producer of adult entertainment I find that it is difficult sell movies featuring said 'slappa' types. Punters are not particularly interested - and I'm taking about the adult entertainment buying public here, real guys who pay our wages - not the twenty or so 'enthusiasts who contribute to the forum.
A derogatory term? Yes, of course. If the girls and the mainstream media who spawned this phenomena continue to think it's big and it's clever to behave in a loud, vulgar, obnoxious manner, while sporting haircuts that look like they were inflicted on them by an IRA punishment squad, they will think everything is fine and dandy. However, if they start to get the message that not everyone is impressed by this look/behaviour maybe they will change their ways (though I doubt it. The cat is out of the bag.)
You always leap to the defence of the slappa phenomena when anyone dares to criticise it (not just me) But do you really find being loud, vulgar, obnoxious, acting like one of the lads, while adopting a slightly androgynous look are endearing female traits? Or, are you just doing your best to be politically correct?
Your humble servant,
T.T.T.
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magoo
Re: Today's Papers
Bring back National Service, thats what I say! Two years in the army would teach them some manners and how to behave like ladies. I dont know! Young people these days. Never happened in my day, I can tell you. All these tatoos and funny haircuts. You cant tell Arthur from Martha these days.
That was an attempt at irony by the way just incase anyone thinks Ive been down the Legion with the pensioners.
That was an attempt at irony by the way just incase anyone thinks Ive been down the Legion with the pensioners.
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woodgnome
Re: Today's Papers
it has nothing to do with being politically correct. i simply disagree with your analysis, that's all.
furthermore, i don't find being loud, obnoxious or vulgar attractive traits in anyone - male or female!
and as for leaping around on behalf of anyone, allow me to further present the case for the defence:
rebekah jordan, laura hermenson, andrea spinks, tia, elen cole, chanta rose, sonia lee, debbie tomlins, emma gault, sadie leech, linda murray, vicki holloway, layla~jade, kelly marie, lisa michaels, michelle thorne, sammy jane, georgina law, natasha vale, tamara noon, laura jones, teresa scott, dominique rush, valencia diaz, blaze gordon, melissa walker, vicky scott, joanne meachem, laura biggs, michelle barratt, majella shepard, hannah harper, suzi jarman, georina law, goldi mchawn, katrina bowers, valencia diaz, angel-long, hayley thompson, traci laski, tracey williams, laura ranger, leigh brooke, jan burton, lisa jeffreys, rebecca lee... plus a skillion more, none of whom, i would contend, fit your misogynistic (to my mind) definition of contemporary, british womanhood.
your humble forum enthusiast,
woodgnome
p.s. apologies to any well behaved, properly turned out, softly spoken female members of the british adult entertainment sorority, omitted from this list. it is not intended to be comprehensive.
furthermore, i don't find being loud, obnoxious or vulgar attractive traits in anyone - male or female!
and as for leaping around on behalf of anyone, allow me to further present the case for the defence:
rebekah jordan, laura hermenson, andrea spinks, tia, elen cole, chanta rose, sonia lee, debbie tomlins, emma gault, sadie leech, linda murray, vicki holloway, layla~jade, kelly marie, lisa michaels, michelle thorne, sammy jane, georgina law, natasha vale, tamara noon, laura jones, teresa scott, dominique rush, valencia diaz, blaze gordon, melissa walker, vicky scott, joanne meachem, laura biggs, michelle barratt, majella shepard, hannah harper, suzi jarman, georina law, goldi mchawn, katrina bowers, valencia diaz, angel-long, hayley thompson, traci laski, tracey williams, laura ranger, leigh brooke, jan burton, lisa jeffreys, rebecca lee... plus a skillion more, none of whom, i would contend, fit your misogynistic (to my mind) definition of contemporary, british womanhood.
your humble forum enthusiast,
woodgnome
p.s. apologies to any well behaved, properly turned out, softly spoken female members of the british adult entertainment sorority, omitted from this list. it is not intended to be comprehensive.
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Dibble
Re: Today's Papers
Woodgnome. There you go again, banding around 'misogynistic' another favorite Woodgnome word. Without consulting my trusty Collins I'll stick my neck out and assume that by misogynistic you mean that I hate women? - Nothing could be further from the truth! You overlook the fact that in my original posting I heaped lavish praise upon the appearance of the delightful Debbie Corrigan, as I would do with any glamour model that actually fits that billing. I appreciate beautiful things.
My point is that a lot of current 'talent' is self evidently not particularly attractive and to make matters worse they emulate the lairy antics and sartorial (non) sense of yer Ginger Spices, yer Zoe Balls, yer 'Hear Say' girls, etc,. I'm quite sure most guys would prefer a sweet, coy little thing than a lairy tattoo sportin' tart. Hey, I don't expect every girl to be a Claudia Schiffer, I used to love 'girls next door' - till they started getting lairy and wanting to be 'one of the lads'. But guys don't want girls to be 'one of the lads,' they already have pals for that.
I'm certainly not the only one in the industry who's aware of this problem. I was rappin' with 'Remington,' just a few weeks ago and he completely agreed with my observations. In fact he indicated that he had hordes of young 'slappa' types queuing up round the block to be filmed in shag sessions. But he had no intention of using them because there is just no real market for that kind of thing. He can't sell 'em. Instead, he will be concentrating on the horny housewife and mature, well upholstered lady market - now there's a guy what does know the industry.
You reel of a list of girls and say they all must meet my 'slappa' criteria. I'm sure some do. Though I must confess, I wouldn't know most of them if they bumped into me in the street. But I have worked with one or two (I choose carefully) and found them to be glamorous, sweet, intelligent - sometimes all three! I'll no doubt be using them again. They even send me Christmas cards - a surefire way to melt the heart of any miserable Scrooge.
As for being vulgar, rude, obnoxious, etc,. I guess I'll have to stick my hand up. But someone's got to have the backbone to point of that the Emperor's togs are missing.
On this occasion,
Two Tongue Ted.
My point is that a lot of current 'talent' is self evidently not particularly attractive and to make matters worse they emulate the lairy antics and sartorial (non) sense of yer Ginger Spices, yer Zoe Balls, yer 'Hear Say' girls, etc,. I'm quite sure most guys would prefer a sweet, coy little thing than a lairy tattoo sportin' tart. Hey, I don't expect every girl to be a Claudia Schiffer, I used to love 'girls next door' - till they started getting lairy and wanting to be 'one of the lads'. But guys don't want girls to be 'one of the lads,' they already have pals for that.
I'm certainly not the only one in the industry who's aware of this problem. I was rappin' with 'Remington,' just a few weeks ago and he completely agreed with my observations. In fact he indicated that he had hordes of young 'slappa' types queuing up round the block to be filmed in shag sessions. But he had no intention of using them because there is just no real market for that kind of thing. He can't sell 'em. Instead, he will be concentrating on the horny housewife and mature, well upholstered lady market - now there's a guy what does know the industry.
You reel of a list of girls and say they all must meet my 'slappa' criteria. I'm sure some do. Though I must confess, I wouldn't know most of them if they bumped into me in the street. But I have worked with one or two (I choose carefully) and found them to be glamorous, sweet, intelligent - sometimes all three! I'll no doubt be using them again. They even send me Christmas cards - a surefire way to melt the heart of any miserable Scrooge.
As for being vulgar, rude, obnoxious, etc,. I guess I'll have to stick my hand up. But someone's got to have the backbone to point of that the Emperor's togs are missing.
On this occasion,
Two Tongue Ted.
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woodgnome
Re: Today's Papers
describing women as slappers, slags, etc, only confirms hoary old stereotypes about the sex industry - i.e. a business that exploits women and treats them with contempt.
if you're not impressed by the standard of the porn wannabees coming to you for work, that's your prerogative but why is it necessary to keep banging on about them like they're something you've just stepped in.
after all, without the women there IS no industry.
if you're not impressed by the standard of the porn wannabees coming to you for work, that's your prerogative but why is it necessary to keep banging on about them like they're something you've just stepped in.
after all, without the women there IS no industry.