Thanks, Irish people

[Peter]

Looks like they've voted 'no' to the constitution, sorry treaty, and stuck one up Europes arse.

I wonder what they'll rename this constitution/treaty the next time they try to sneak it through?

[Mysteryman]

Asa Brit living in Ireland I'm disgusted that this country, that has, economically, benefitted most from the Community since joining has, on a low turnout, seemingly said "No" to the treaty.

The amount of disinformation put out by the "No" campaign to appeal to the traditional, conservative, Catholic majority was stunning.

Amongst the garbage peddled by the campaign:

The treaty will force Ireland to allow abortion, gay marriage, embryo research and genetic manipulation.

They also appealed to the working man with the following lies:

Ireland would lose its right to decide its own taxes, human rights and employment rules.

As most people can't be bothered to inform themselves and believe what they hear - particularly if they are made to feel scared - the "No" campaign was on a winner, moreso since the government elected here last year is now very unpopular and more than 30% of people who voted no have said they have done so, not because of the Treaty but as a protest against the government which supported the Treaty. So much for common sense and intelligence.

A united Europe is a force for good and a force for peace which, the disintegration of Yugoslavia apart, has helped keep Europe peaceful for the longest period in the history of the continent.

Where Europe goes now is anyone's guess. No doubt the little Englanders on here will be jubilant but those with a wider view will understand that, though the Treaty was by no means perfect (and what agreement between 27 disparate countries ever could be), it was a further step to cohesion and the establishment of an entity which has and would benefit every country in the Union.

[michaeldon1]

I'm pro Euorpean....I think it's a good think,but democracy is what has to drive it,and European politicians are scared of the democratic process so much that with the exception of Ireland they denied the people a voice.....but your right it's been the constitution,then the treaty,next they'll name it the accords,but this time no-one will get a vote.....Politicians are the enemy!!!!!

[biffalo]

They'll not even bother to 're-brand' it, they'll simply have another referendum ad infinitum until they get the result they want.

[Sam Slater]

Well, wouldn't it be undemocratic not to have repeat referendums? What about if the majority changed their minds over the months or years?

[steve56]

Begorrah wheres that Terry Wogan?lol

[Jacques]

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[steve56]

Battle of the bulge.

[johnsix]

Well done indeed, Bet the bastards won't listen though. We shall have to wait for direct action I fear, Still I shall raise a glass or two of Nigerian lager tonight.

[Peter]

Sam Slater wrote:

> Well, wouldn't it be undemocratic not to have repeat
> referendums? What about if the majority changed their minds
> over the months or years?
>
>

Except repeat referendums would mysteriously stop after people had voted 'yes'.