From the safe distance of Australia, and from a position of hating our own PM, I can say that I find your Labor PM quite likable.
It seems that virtually everyone here at BGAFD hates his guts and I understand that my experience of him is merely what I see via the media. I find him far more realistic than Blair who struck me as a used car salesman. Obama is an insurance salesman. And both have/had the media kissing their arses.
At least Brown has to get by on actual performance (or lack of) rather than charm and charisma which can deal up total disasters.
In Oz, as I'm sure in most places, the really genuine politicians get utterly fucked over by the party machine and dumped in favour of some cunt with 'family values' and 'extensive work in the community' (means member of the Mafia who understands who to bribe and who to threaten).
After Brown is gone, I get the feeling you might start missing him. Treasure these sacred moments while he is still around. Think of Gordon as Sam Fox - the teenage giggly tart of the mid 80's.
Well I Like Gordon Brown
Well I Like Gordon Brown
Phwooorr...look at her....CRASH
Re: Well I Like Gordon Brown
Mate, lay off the grog!
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Re: Well I Like Gordon Brown
What people don't like about Gordon Brown is his arrogance. He did everything he could to become Prime Minister, whether the public wanted him or not. When Tony Blair stood for re-election in 2005 he (Blair) promised to do a full 5 year term. He went after 2 years (Blair resigned after being interviewed under caution by the Police over the allegations that people who gave money to his party where given seats in the House Of Lords. No sitting PM has ever been interviewed under caution by the Police before, so he resigned). So we get Brown taking over. We knew Blair had done a deal with him to hand over to him at some point but the public should be consulted over who their leader is.
I know we vote mainly for the party and not the leader, but the charisma and perceived usefulness of the leader may make you want the party in office or not. Brown was going to have a general election in 2007, after he took over. He discovered that no one wanted him as PM (he looked at the polls). So he didn't have an election. This arrogrant bastard would only let the public vote if they were going to vote for him. Does that sound fair? No it doesn't! He stupidly said that he wasn't going to have an election after all because "I have many policies and need time to develop those policies". What he didn't consider was that no one wanted him there to develop those policies at all! He is an arrogant, egotistical wanker who thinks only of himself, his huge ego, and not of the country.
You probably haven't heard but one of his advisors resigned this week over nasty smear campaigns that were being run against senior politicans in the Conservative party. It said on the BBC news this week that Brown was dong this sort of thing himself when he was trying to get into pole position himself to become PM - anyone in his own party who may have had quite a lot of support from people in the party was smeared and had their reputation ruined by Brown and his close allies, in order to reduce that person's chances of becoming leader, after Tony Blair, thus increasing Brown's chances of becoming leader himself.
Gordon Brown is a scumbag!
I know we vote mainly for the party and not the leader, but the charisma and perceived usefulness of the leader may make you want the party in office or not. Brown was going to have a general election in 2007, after he took over. He discovered that no one wanted him as PM (he looked at the polls). So he didn't have an election. This arrogrant bastard would only let the public vote if they were going to vote for him. Does that sound fair? No it doesn't! He stupidly said that he wasn't going to have an election after all because "I have many policies and need time to develop those policies". What he didn't consider was that no one wanted him there to develop those policies at all! He is an arrogant, egotistical wanker who thinks only of himself, his huge ego, and not of the country.
You probably haven't heard but one of his advisors resigned this week over nasty smear campaigns that were being run against senior politicans in the Conservative party. It said on the BBC news this week that Brown was dong this sort of thing himself when he was trying to get into pole position himself to become PM - anyone in his own party who may have had quite a lot of support from people in the party was smeared and had their reputation ruined by Brown and his close allies, in order to reduce that person's chances of becoming leader, after Tony Blair, thus increasing Brown's chances of becoming leader himself.
Gordon Brown is a scumbag!
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I like him too. He's tough in a world where you need to be tough.
Those who seek an alternative must be dreaming of a world where Old Etonians/Oxonians wear black tie in every photo you see and drink premier champagne, while old folk have to decide whether to heat or to eat in the winter.
That's the choice you have.
Mind you, I like Rudd too. And that Julia woman.
Those who seek an alternative must be dreaming of a world where Old Etonians/Oxonians wear black tie in every photo you see and drink premier champagne, while old folk have to decide whether to heat or to eat in the winter.
That's the choice you have.
Mind you, I like Rudd too. And that Julia woman.
Re: Well I Like Gordon Brown
colonel wrote:
> I like him too. He's tough in a world where you need to be
> tough.
But that's exactly what he's not. He obsesses about focus-groups
and at the slightest sign of trouble dives under the table. He tries
to appear tough and decisive but all I see is a desperately
over-ambitious and frightened man who has lost what little control
over events he had in the first place.
He's a bully with the weak and a coward when faced down, and his
sesquipedalian pseudo-intellectualism hides a really rather
pedestrian mind. His real metier would have been as a middle-ranking
civil servant; he has the heart of an accountant and the soul of a
filing-clerk.
> I like him too. He's tough in a world where you need to be
> tough.
But that's exactly what he's not. He obsesses about focus-groups
and at the slightest sign of trouble dives under the table. He tries
to appear tough and decisive but all I see is a desperately
over-ambitious and frightened man who has lost what little control
over events he had in the first place.
He's a bully with the weak and a coward when faced down, and his
sesquipedalian pseudo-intellectualism hides a really rather
pedestrian mind. His real metier would have been as a middle-ranking
civil servant; he has the heart of an accountant and the soul of a
filing-clerk.
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
Re: Well I Like Gordon Brown
A man sees what he wants to see and disregards the rest.
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Just like Blair.
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
Re: Well I Like Gordon Brown
Very well said JJ....sums the useless fucker up quite eloquently.
Re: Well I Like Gordon Brown
biffalo wrote:
> Very well said JJ....sums the useless fucker up quite
> eloquently.
Errr.... you summed it up far more succinctly.
> Very well said JJ....sums the useless fucker up quite
> eloquently.
Errr.... you summed it up far more succinctly.
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
Re: Well I Like Gordon Brown
You have to remember that he is Scottish so doesn't really stand a chance in being a popular PM. Most of those English dudes just cannot handle the fact that a Scot is running the country ... sad but true I fear.
PEOPLE think Stephen Hawking is so clever, but when you ask him a question and he is typing in the answer on his little screen, how do we know he isn't just looking up the answer on the Internet?