I was thinking more in terms of Italian versions of other Euro titles,
which tend to run under 10 Euro.
Italian 'plot' titles I buy a year or two after release, when they're
more or less 'remaindered'.
Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi (1995)
Re: Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi (1995)
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
Re: Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi (1995)
I am doing a detailed analysis of Part I of this movie which I will post shortly, and I took a quick look at the scene breakdown outlined in IAFD, but I have no idea as to the basis of that breakdown, and I don't know what version was used for that information:
There is no indication it is a two-part movie (although there is some mention of some g/s scenes in the original uncensored version), and probably a basterdized and censored version (containing Pt 1 and 2) may have been used.
There is no indication it is a two-part movie (although there is some mention of some g/s scenes in the original uncensored version), and probably a basterdized and censored version (containing Pt 1 and 2) may have been used.
Re: Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi (1995)
Len801 wrote:
> ... probably a basterdized and censored version
> (containing Pt 1 and 2) may have been used.
I too had great difficulty matching my Sexxx Label DVD to iafd's
breakdown.
> ... probably a basterdized and censored version
> (containing Pt 1 and 2) may have been used.
I too had great difficulty matching my Sexxx Label DVD to iafd's
breakdown.
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
Re: Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi (1995)
This is the detailed analysis of Part 1 of this movie. Only Letizia, Monica and Perla are seen. There is only one brief g/s scene involving Monica and Letizia. A lot of thes scenes are repetitive (car driving around, dark sex in secluded spots, bukkakke by a bunch of dreary looking males, etc). Nothing really to recommend, This is really Letizia's movie, with the pretty Perla barely a dent.
Review of Part 2 will follow as soon I can make an analysis.
Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi
=Rocco is sitting in his car, poring over some pics of a model (Letizia Bisset), who claims to be bored and wants to meet him. Rocco drives off to meet her. Near the Coloseum, Gabriel Zero (unbilled, in non-sex role) is shooting some pics of Letizia, while a couple other girls are standing nearby (Monica Cancellieri, Perla Mazza). Letizia sees Rocco walking towards them and she runs to him. He tells her than she finds her more attractive in person than in photos and since she is busy, they agree to a rendez-vous later that evening.
=It is now nighttime and we see Rocco driving around Rome with Letizia. Rocco is curious about the brunette that was present at the photo shoot and Letizia tells her it is her friend Perla (Perla Mazza). He flirts with her and takes her to a secluded spot, where she blows him, and soon a group of men (4 at first, but I saw more later, probably about 7 or so) surround the car and Letizia blows them from inside, while Rocco screws her in the crowded front seat of the car. The men pull her out of the car and place her (in squatting position), in front of the car, where she can have better access to them all, with the scene lit by the car?s front headlightst (the scene is nonetheless very dark). Each man cums off on her face (I did not see Rocco take part in that).
=What appears to be the next day, Rocco and Letizia are walking and driving around the city enjoying each other?s company. At one point she sees a black street seller selling handbags and she insists on getting one, but he asks 300 which Rocco does not agree to, and tells the man to pack up his things and come with him and that he will pay him 500 for his troubles. In the car, Letizia finally learns the details of the deal Rocco struck with the black guy. Letizia is game and in the back seat she blows the guy. He seems to climax, but very little cum seen. But the fun is not over and Rocco promises to take them to a quiet place. In front of a wall, Letizia blows the black guy on her knees. She jerks him off on her mouth, but again very little cum seen.
=Rocco next drives Letizia to another ?quiet? places, where she gives him a bj, and again a number of men are hiding in the bushes. A little while later Rocco and Letizia get out of the car and stand in front with only the headlights providing a bit of lighting. She blows him briefly and he screws her in standing-doggie position. Soon 4 guys come out of the bushes and join in. Rocco jerks off to the side while Letizia blows and fucks the 4 guys. She squats over one of them and gets fucked in reverse cowgirl. Soon after the four guys jerk off on her face, one after the other (again I did not see Rocco join in).
=Gabriel Zero is doing a photo shoot indoors. First he briefly shoots Moniqa Cancellieri=Monique Covet (in black bra, panties and stockings), then she is joined by Letizia (in red lingeries and black stockings). Two naked black males are harnessed up in chains. Rocco enters the scene (dressed in blue suit) and snaps a few stills, and Perla is briefly seen peeking in on the scene from afar. Letizia is trussed upside down on a bar, and is licked by Rocco and Monica, while Letizia blows the two black males. Rocco opens a bottle of champagne and foaming it up inserts it in Letizia?s pussy. She expells the foaming liquid onto Rocco?s mouth. Both Rocco and Monica rim her. Rocco then pisses in Letizia?s (who still is hanging upside down) and Monica?s open mouths. The girls briefly blow Rocco, then Letizia (now down) licks Rocco (now naked), while Monica blows the twqo black guys. Rocco makes Letizia rim the two guys, as well as himself. Rocco screws Letizia vaginally and anally in doggie. Then Rocco screws Monica anally in doggie, and goes back and forth fucking both girls anally this way, and does Monica in standing (while Letizia does A2M). Roccco fucks Letizia anallly in doggie on the floor while Monica is in 69 position licking her pussy and doing A2M. Then positions are reversed with Monica being buttfuckled in doggie while Letizia is underneath (Rocco slaps Letizia a few times and spits in Monica?s mouth). Scene ends with Rocco jerking off in both their open mouths/faces.
=Rocco takes Letizia to a place, where is immediately greeted by a Perla in red/black lingerie and with a large strap-on. They kiss, Perla undresses Letizia amd makes her suck her big strap-on. She makes Letizia lie over a couch and fucks her energetically in missionary. Then Letizia fucks Perla anally with strap-on (very thick bush).
=Perla phones Rocco and begs to see him right away and a meeting is set for later that evening. In the car lter than night Perla confesses to Rocco in the car that she is more sensual than Letizia and wants to show him what she is capable of. Rocco tells her he knows a proper place for that. At a secluded spot Rocco makes love to Perla in the car (again the place is surrounded by a number of voyeurs hiding in the bushes). At this point I have to conclude Rocco probably had to make good use of a leased car which explains all the driving around and scenes with the car, lack of hotel rooms or probably too expensive as a suitable place to stage the sex scenes, and various favors he had to repay to his male fans by making them participate in all those bukkakke scenes. And a special warning to tourists traveling to Rome and parking cars in secluded spots: don?t take your women there as a bunch of depraved locals will want to screw your women.
Perla blows Rocco briefly then with front seat pulled down her screws her in reverse cowgirl. Perla blows the several males (about a half dozen) gathered outside the car (basically a repeat of the previous Letizia scenes, with the Perla coming outside in front of the car and in squatting position blowing the guys. One by one the males blow their wadds over her face, and after that she runs off.
=There some more ?travelogue? scenes of Rocco and Letizia walking around Roman tourist attractions, and than at night Rocco takes her to a sort of indoor arena where martial arts and boxing matches are staged. Rocco begins fondling Letizia (she is wearing red lingerie) and they are quickly surrounded by a bunch of males who want a piece of the action. As she begins to blow them (I think on of the males is Silvio Evangelista), we see Perla make her way in the club (she had been following Rocco and Letizia). After one of the males cums in her mouth she is taken up inside the boxing ring. There she continues to blow several men, who cum on her face and she is also fucked vaginally and anally in reverse cowgirl position. After cuming on her face, the guys all leave and Letizia is left all alone in the middle of the ring. Rocco comes up in the ring and brutalizes her . He rips her lingerie, makes her suck his dick and rim his ass. Then he sodomizes her in doggie, and cums in her open mouth.
Review of Part 2 will follow as soon I can make an analysis.
Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi
=Rocco is sitting in his car, poring over some pics of a model (Letizia Bisset), who claims to be bored and wants to meet him. Rocco drives off to meet her. Near the Coloseum, Gabriel Zero (unbilled, in non-sex role) is shooting some pics of Letizia, while a couple other girls are standing nearby (Monica Cancellieri, Perla Mazza). Letizia sees Rocco walking towards them and she runs to him. He tells her than she finds her more attractive in person than in photos and since she is busy, they agree to a rendez-vous later that evening.
=It is now nighttime and we see Rocco driving around Rome with Letizia. Rocco is curious about the brunette that was present at the photo shoot and Letizia tells her it is her friend Perla (Perla Mazza). He flirts with her and takes her to a secluded spot, where she blows him, and soon a group of men (4 at first, but I saw more later, probably about 7 or so) surround the car and Letizia blows them from inside, while Rocco screws her in the crowded front seat of the car. The men pull her out of the car and place her (in squatting position), in front of the car, where she can have better access to them all, with the scene lit by the car?s front headlightst (the scene is nonetheless very dark). Each man cums off on her face (I did not see Rocco take part in that).
=What appears to be the next day, Rocco and Letizia are walking and driving around the city enjoying each other?s company. At one point she sees a black street seller selling handbags and she insists on getting one, but he asks 300 which Rocco does not agree to, and tells the man to pack up his things and come with him and that he will pay him 500 for his troubles. In the car, Letizia finally learns the details of the deal Rocco struck with the black guy. Letizia is game and in the back seat she blows the guy. He seems to climax, but very little cum seen. But the fun is not over and Rocco promises to take them to a quiet place. In front of a wall, Letizia blows the black guy on her knees. She jerks him off on her mouth, but again very little cum seen.
=Rocco next drives Letizia to another ?quiet? places, where she gives him a bj, and again a number of men are hiding in the bushes. A little while later Rocco and Letizia get out of the car and stand in front with only the headlights providing a bit of lighting. She blows him briefly and he screws her in standing-doggie position. Soon 4 guys come out of the bushes and join in. Rocco jerks off to the side while Letizia blows and fucks the 4 guys. She squats over one of them and gets fucked in reverse cowgirl. Soon after the four guys jerk off on her face, one after the other (again I did not see Rocco join in).
=Gabriel Zero is doing a photo shoot indoors. First he briefly shoots Moniqa Cancellieri=Monique Covet (in black bra, panties and stockings), then she is joined by Letizia (in red lingeries and black stockings). Two naked black males are harnessed up in chains. Rocco enters the scene (dressed in blue suit) and snaps a few stills, and Perla is briefly seen peeking in on the scene from afar. Letizia is trussed upside down on a bar, and is licked by Rocco and Monica, while Letizia blows the two black males. Rocco opens a bottle of champagne and foaming it up inserts it in Letizia?s pussy. She expells the foaming liquid onto Rocco?s mouth. Both Rocco and Monica rim her. Rocco then pisses in Letizia?s (who still is hanging upside down) and Monica?s open mouths. The girls briefly blow Rocco, then Letizia (now down) licks Rocco (now naked), while Monica blows the twqo black guys. Rocco makes Letizia rim the two guys, as well as himself. Rocco screws Letizia vaginally and anally in doggie. Then Rocco screws Monica anally in doggie, and goes back and forth fucking both girls anally this way, and does Monica in standing (while Letizia does A2M). Roccco fucks Letizia anallly in doggie on the floor while Monica is in 69 position licking her pussy and doing A2M. Then positions are reversed with Monica being buttfuckled in doggie while Letizia is underneath (Rocco slaps Letizia a few times and spits in Monica?s mouth). Scene ends with Rocco jerking off in both their open mouths/faces.
=Rocco takes Letizia to a place, where is immediately greeted by a Perla in red/black lingerie and with a large strap-on. They kiss, Perla undresses Letizia amd makes her suck her big strap-on. She makes Letizia lie over a couch and fucks her energetically in missionary. Then Letizia fucks Perla anally with strap-on (very thick bush).
=Perla phones Rocco and begs to see him right away and a meeting is set for later that evening. In the car lter than night Perla confesses to Rocco in the car that she is more sensual than Letizia and wants to show him what she is capable of. Rocco tells her he knows a proper place for that. At a secluded spot Rocco makes love to Perla in the car (again the place is surrounded by a number of voyeurs hiding in the bushes). At this point I have to conclude Rocco probably had to make good use of a leased car which explains all the driving around and scenes with the car, lack of hotel rooms or probably too expensive as a suitable place to stage the sex scenes, and various favors he had to repay to his male fans by making them participate in all those bukkakke scenes. And a special warning to tourists traveling to Rome and parking cars in secluded spots: don?t take your women there as a bunch of depraved locals will want to screw your women.
Perla blows Rocco briefly then with front seat pulled down her screws her in reverse cowgirl. Perla blows the several males (about a half dozen) gathered outside the car (basically a repeat of the previous Letizia scenes, with the Perla coming outside in front of the car and in squatting position blowing the guys. One by one the males blow their wadds over her face, and after that she runs off.
=There some more ?travelogue? scenes of Rocco and Letizia walking around Roman tourist attractions, and than at night Rocco takes her to a sort of indoor arena where martial arts and boxing matches are staged. Rocco begins fondling Letizia (she is wearing red lingerie) and they are quickly surrounded by a bunch of males who want a piece of the action. As she begins to blow them (I think on of the males is Silvio Evangelista), we see Perla make her way in the club (she had been following Rocco and Letizia). After one of the males cums in her mouth she is taken up inside the boxing ring. There she continues to blow several men, who cum on her face and she is also fucked vaginally and anally in reverse cowgirl position. After cuming on her face, the guys all leave and Letizia is left all alone in the middle of the ring. Rocco comes up in the ring and brutalizes her . He rips her lingerie, makes her suck his dick and rim his ass. Then he sodomizes her in doggie, and cums in her open mouth.
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Re: Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi (1995)
jj wrote:
> Len801 wrote:
> > ... probably a basterdized and censored version
> > (containing Pt 1 and 2) may have been used.
>
> I too had great difficulty matching my Sexxx Label DVD to
> iafd's
> breakdown.
>
The version IAFD used is, of course, the US release by Evil Angel: Never Say Never to Rocco.
> Len801 wrote:
> > ... probably a basterdized and censored version
> > (containing Pt 1 and 2) may have been used.
>
> I too had great difficulty matching my Sexxx Label DVD to
> iafd's
> breakdown.
>
The version IAFD used is, of course, the US release by Evil Angel: Never Say Never to Rocco.
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Re: Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi (1995)
It seems to match you breakdown of part 1 more than the iafd one !!
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
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My version
Opening credit:
Rocco Siffredi Produzioni presenta Letizia Bisset e Perla Mazza in Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi, un film scritto, prodotto, interpretato e diretto da Rocco Siffredi
1. Letizia, Rocco and other guys on the road side. (Letizia begins with black lingerie and black fishnet stockings, and surprise! She is now in white lingerie and white stockings. Apparently, the adventure with the vu cumpr? guy cut out to combine two outdoor crowd scenes with Letizia.)
2. Photo shoot (Letizia and Monica) that begins with two black men and then Rocco joins in.
3. The arena scene with Letizia. Kick-boxing, full-contact karate and sort of MMA exposed. !happy!
4. Letizia gives brief bj to Rocco while he's driving.
5. Studio photo shoot (Perla and Monica) joined by five men. Monica takes a DP.
6. Perla and Monica in Rocco's car. Lesbian play, bj, Rocco comes in Monica's mouth.
7. Rocco drives the girls to an odd building with lots of 'friendly' Africans. Begins with Perla blowing a guy and getting a vaginal creampie in doggy. Gangbang. Rocco also proceeds to fuck Monica.
8. Two parallel scenes:
a) A cute blonde with a bad hairdo (name given as "Gabriella" on IAFD) blows a hairy guy. After talking to Rocco on the phone, Letizia joins in. Anal in cowgirl and doggy for Letizia. The guy comes in Letizia's mouth.
b) Rocco rings Letizia while Perla and Monica blow him. He tells her that she has a beautiful surprise for her (I can't get into further details because of my limited Italian). Prolonged anal for Monica. Perla only uses her mouth on Rocco and Monica (bj, cunnilingus, rimming, A2M). Rocco gives them a facial over the toilet.
9. Rocco drives Perla and Monica to a park. Some lesbian play and bj on the way. Rocco begins to fuck Monica outside the car and then leaves the girls to a bunch of guys. Lots of facials for Perla.
9. Letizia arrives at Clarissa's house. Clarissa acts as a domina to Letizia. A domination scene where Rocco gives rough anal to both. Takes the girls to the bathroom. Fucks Clarissa (anally) over the toilet and comes in Letizia's mouth. Then pees in her mouth, Clarissa pulling Letizia's hair to put her head to the toilet bowl and flushes.
10. Rocco drives Perla to the kick-boxing club. Bukkake, DP, and so on that end in a 'golden shower bukkake' in her open mouth while Rocco and Letizia watch the scene. Two 'pervs' lick her urine stained body afterwards.
End credits:
Rocco Siffredi per la realizzazione di questo film ringrazia: Perla Mazza, Monica Cancellieri, Letizia Bisset, Clarissa Bruni (nel suo primo film), tutti i ragazzi del fans club, la troupe tecnica della Rocco Siffredi Produzioni e alla gentile partecipazione del fotografo Gabriele (cugino di Rocco).
Musiche originali composte da Angy Tahan
Copyright: Rocco Siffredi Produzioni - 1996
Rocco Siffredi Produzioni presenta Letizia Bisset e Perla Mazza in Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi, un film scritto, prodotto, interpretato e diretto da Rocco Siffredi
1. Letizia, Rocco and other guys on the road side. (Letizia begins with black lingerie and black fishnet stockings, and surprise! She is now in white lingerie and white stockings. Apparently, the adventure with the vu cumpr? guy cut out to combine two outdoor crowd scenes with Letizia.)
2. Photo shoot (Letizia and Monica) that begins with two black men and then Rocco joins in.
3. The arena scene with Letizia. Kick-boxing, full-contact karate and sort of MMA exposed. !happy!
4. Letizia gives brief bj to Rocco while he's driving.
5. Studio photo shoot (Perla and Monica) joined by five men. Monica takes a DP.
6. Perla and Monica in Rocco's car. Lesbian play, bj, Rocco comes in Monica's mouth.
7. Rocco drives the girls to an odd building with lots of 'friendly' Africans. Begins with Perla blowing a guy and getting a vaginal creampie in doggy. Gangbang. Rocco also proceeds to fuck Monica.
8. Two parallel scenes:
a) A cute blonde with a bad hairdo (name given as "Gabriella" on IAFD) blows a hairy guy. After talking to Rocco on the phone, Letizia joins in. Anal in cowgirl and doggy for Letizia. The guy comes in Letizia's mouth.
b) Rocco rings Letizia while Perla and Monica blow him. He tells her that she has a beautiful surprise for her (I can't get into further details because of my limited Italian). Prolonged anal for Monica. Perla only uses her mouth on Rocco and Monica (bj, cunnilingus, rimming, A2M). Rocco gives them a facial over the toilet.
9. Rocco drives Perla and Monica to a park. Some lesbian play and bj on the way. Rocco begins to fuck Monica outside the car and then leaves the girls to a bunch of guys. Lots of facials for Perla.
9. Letizia arrives at Clarissa's house. Clarissa acts as a domina to Letizia. A domination scene where Rocco gives rough anal to both. Takes the girls to the bathroom. Fucks Clarissa (anally) over the toilet and comes in Letizia's mouth. Then pees in her mouth, Clarissa pulling Letizia's hair to put her head to the toilet bowl and flushes.
10. Rocco drives Perla to the kick-boxing club. Bukkake, DP, and so on that end in a 'golden shower bukkake' in her open mouth while Rocco and Letizia watch the scene. Two 'pervs' lick her urine stained body afterwards.
End credits:
Rocco Siffredi per la realizzazione di questo film ringrazia: Perla Mazza, Monica Cancellieri, Letizia Bisset, Clarissa Bruni (nel suo primo film), tutti i ragazzi del fans club, la troupe tecnica della Rocco Siffredi Produzioni e alla gentile partecipazione del fotografo Gabriele (cugino di Rocco).
Musiche originali composte da Angy Tahan
Copyright: Rocco Siffredi Produzioni - 1996
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Re: My version
Total duration: 165 minutes
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Re: Mai dire mai a Rocco Siffredi (1995)
Here comes my humble conclusion:
This film has two Italian versions.
* 1995 version released in two parts (the one Len801 has), which is presumably the original version. jj's Sexxx Label release is a re-edit of this version.
* 1996 version, which I have. Evil Angel release (140 mins and naturally without golden showers) is a re-edit of this version.
This film has two Italian versions.
* 1995 version released in two parts (the one Len801 has), which is presumably the original version. jj's Sexxx Label release is a re-edit of this version.
* 1996 version, which I have. Evil Angel release (140 mins and naturally without golden showers) is a re-edit of this version.
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Re: My version
Bad Samaritan wrote:
>
> 9. Rocco drives Perla and Monica to a park. Some lesbian play
> and bj on the way. Rocco begins to fuck Monica outside the car
> and then leaves the girls to a bunch of guys. Lots of facials
> for Perla.
>
> 9. Letizia arrives at Clarissa's house. Clarissa acts as a
> domina to Letizia. A domination scene where Rocco gives rough
> anal to both. Takes the girls to the bathroom. Fucks Clarissa
> (anally) over the toilet and comes in Letizia's mouth. Then
> pees in her mouth, Clarissa pulling Letizia's hair to put her
> head to the toilet bowl and flushes.
>
Sorry for I have never been good at mathematics. !blush!
>
> 9. Rocco drives Perla and Monica to a park. Some lesbian play
> and bj on the way. Rocco begins to fuck Monica outside the car
> and then leaves the girls to a bunch of guys. Lots of facials
> for Perla.
>
> 9. Letizia arrives at Clarissa's house. Clarissa acts as a
> domina to Letizia. A domination scene where Rocco gives rough
> anal to both. Takes the girls to the bathroom. Fucks Clarissa
> (anally) over the toilet and comes in Letizia's mouth. Then
> pees in her mouth, Clarissa pulling Letizia's hair to put her
> head to the toilet bowl and flushes.
>
Sorry for I have never been good at mathematics. !blush!
hosça bak zâtina kim zübde-i âlemsin sen
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