To summarize JJ, you have part 2 in DVD format released by FM (the italian language version?) that runs 76 minutes. What I have seen and described in my previous posts is the VHS In-X-Cess (badly english-dubbed) version than runs around 73 minutes.
So you are saying that the In-X-Cess (VHS) and FM-DVD (Italian?) version are identical?
Nikita a Assassina Sexual
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Len801 wrote:
> So you are saying that the In-X-Cess (VHS) and FM-DVD
> (Italian?) version are identical?
I can't say that- I haven't seen the US release.
> So you are saying that the In-X-Cess (VHS) and FM-DVD
> (Italian?) version are identical?
I can't say that- I haven't seen the US release.
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
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...from my description, you can't tell if it (In-X-Cess VHS 1997 version) matches your FM DVD version (of PART 2)?
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I'm just being cautious : -)
There is that time-discrepancy, after all.
There is that time-discrepancy, after all.
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
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Let me recap my posts, which basically deal with PART 2 (as released in the USA by In-X-Cess in 1997) in an english-dubbed version.
Although by most accounts it is supposed to run about 77 minutes, my VHS version runs about 73 minutes. From the looks of it, I don't think anything of any great relevance is missing, since in Part 2 there is quite a large amount of non-sex scenes and only 3 sex scenes (which do not appear to feature controversial content like pissing or fisting which needed to be censored/removed).
In more than one good-to-reliable source I have seen the running length of both Part 1 and Part 2 (the In-X-Cess VHS version) to be about 77 minutes EACH.
I do not know and I have not seen what is in Part 1 (either In-X-Cess version or the Euro versions). From your earlier post's breakdown I have no clue what is what of who is doing what to whom or in what context, rather than your indication that apparently scenes 4-6 are to be found in Part 2.
So I cannot (and I am in no position) to deal with running lengths of entire movie or that of Part 1 of whatever version.
You had given me the indication that my description of Part 2 (the VHS in-X-Cess) seems to jive with your DVD-FM version, but to what extent is what I was trying to confirm/establish.
That pretty well summarizes it.
Although by most accounts it is supposed to run about 77 minutes, my VHS version runs about 73 minutes. From the looks of it, I don't think anything of any great relevance is missing, since in Part 2 there is quite a large amount of non-sex scenes and only 3 sex scenes (which do not appear to feature controversial content like pissing or fisting which needed to be censored/removed).
In more than one good-to-reliable source I have seen the running length of both Part 1 and Part 2 (the In-X-Cess VHS version) to be about 77 minutes EACH.
I do not know and I have not seen what is in Part 1 (either In-X-Cess version or the Euro versions). From your earlier post's breakdown I have no clue what is what of who is doing what to whom or in what context, rather than your indication that apparently scenes 4-6 are to be found in Part 2.
So I cannot (and I am in no position) to deal with running lengths of entire movie or that of Part 1 of whatever version.
You had given me the indication that my description of Part 2 (the VHS in-X-Cess) seems to jive with your DVD-FM version, but to what extent is what I was trying to confirm/establish.
That pretty well summarizes it.
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Len801 wrote:
> You had given me the indication that my description of Part 2
> (the VHS in-X-Cess) seems to jive with your DVD-FM version, but
> to what extent is what I was trying to confirm/establish.
In terms of sex-scenes I assume they're the same. As I said, I cannot be sure
they're identical in light of the noted discrepancy; I again assume, as you seem
to have, that some small portion of the plot has been removed from the US
release; but to be sure I'd have to do a moment-by-moment comparison.
> You had given me the indication that my description of Part 2
> (the VHS in-X-Cess) seems to jive with your DVD-FM version, but
> to what extent is what I was trying to confirm/establish.
In terms of sex-scenes I assume they're the same. As I said, I cannot be sure
they're identical in light of the noted discrepancy; I again assume, as you seem
to have, that some small portion of the plot has been removed from the US
release; but to be sure I'd have to do a moment-by-moment comparison.
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
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JJ, one thing I found puzzling in reading your earlier posts (nov. 2009) are the following comments:
Walter has given a runtime for the original complete VHS as 148
min.; my Part 1 is 100, Part 2 is 76.... allowing for the overlap
and the slight variations in plot-links I make it 44 [at which
sc. 4 below starts]+ 76= 120 min.
Where and when did Walter (Burns?) make these comments and what is te basis of this assertion (the supposed full lengh of 148 minutes for the entire movie)?
As I said, In-X-Cess issued both Part 1 and Part 2 in VHS back in 1997 with a running length of 77 minutes for each movie, which totals 144 minutes [from what I can determine In-X-Cess apparently padded the first VHS tape with a lot of extra material from other movies, and then padded the Second PART from scnes of the FIRST PART) but apparently as you have established some parts in Part 1 are reprised in Part 2. As you indicated if you start whittling down the repeated scenes in part 2, you will probably end up with perhaps less than 2 hours of running time for the WHOLE movie.
It may clear up the confusion (at least for me since I don't understand the Walter Burns reference) as to how the running length of 148 minutes was established.
Walter has given a runtime for the original complete VHS as 148
min.; my Part 1 is 100, Part 2 is 76.... allowing for the overlap
and the slight variations in plot-links I make it 44 [at which
sc. 4 below starts]+ 76= 120 min.
Where and when did Walter (Burns?) make these comments and what is te basis of this assertion (the supposed full lengh of 148 minutes for the entire movie)?
As I said, In-X-Cess issued both Part 1 and Part 2 in VHS back in 1997 with a running length of 77 minutes for each movie, which totals 144 minutes [from what I can determine In-X-Cess apparently padded the first VHS tape with a lot of extra material from other movies, and then padded the Second PART from scnes of the FIRST PART) but apparently as you have established some parts in Part 1 are reprised in Part 2. As you indicated if you start whittling down the repeated scenes in part 2, you will probably end up with perhaps less than 2 hours of running time for the WHOLE movie.
It may clear up the confusion (at least for me since I don't understand the Walter Burns reference) as to how the running length of 148 minutes was established.
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I could time each scene and describe what occurs in each scene.
Would that help in any way, or is it a futile exercise?
I could time each scene and describe what occurs in each scene.
Would that help in any way, or is it a futile exercise?
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Futile- possibly [I'm a big fan of the quixotic]; unnecessary- IMO certainly.
Walter [in a private communication] quoted the 148 min. for a combined release
called 'Sexy Killer Hardcore'.
Walter [in a private communication] quoted the 148 min. for a combined release
called 'Sexy Killer Hardcore'.
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."