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Re: More Censorship
Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2004 11:48 pm
by Luxor
I'm sure thats going to deter the hackers - 'I'm going to tell your mum!'
I'm also not sure you realise how these things work. Unless you have some way for your videos not to play on the screen ( which would..err..defeat the purpose yes? ) then thats your DRM out of the game already. These things copy from the screen output making a completely new copy without refering to the original DRM copy. How is that going to 'tell us where you copied it from'?
The best example I could give you just now would be danni ashe's site which uses DRM software for her videos. Have a search on one of the P2P networks like Kazaa and you'll see tons of her stuff on there, all copied from the original drm files.
Re: More Censorship
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 12:28 am
by mart
Here's an idea for you Tomsk. Just put thumbnails up and then hire out magnifying glasses.
Mart
Re: More Censorship
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 7:27 am
by Number1
Tomsk, be careful you don't fall into the trap of trying to make everything copy-proof, it will never happen and if it does it will lose you thousands of actual or potential customers, the effort has to be on control of distribution.
Let anyone who accesses the material copy it to their heart's content, but hammmer the bastards that post it somewhere else. We don't need control on what or how they copy, just on where they put it, the anonymous news group posting being a prime target. Get proof that they've posted and you've already won your court case.
If correct controls are in place to track uploads, and bar non traceable uploads, then paedophiles cannot safely spam pics of kids to everyone and thieves cannot post other peoples work without comebacks. That is where the effort needs to be directed. As much as I trawl newsgroups/file share myself, if they cannot be held accountable, they should go.
Re: More Censorship
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 10:48 am
by Paul Tavener
Tomsk, Although I can sympathise with you concerning the theft of material that you had paid to produce, I don't think that the defeat of laws which place a restriction on the freedom of speech can be considered anything other than a victory for those opposed to censorship.
If the case had been lost then the door would have opened for a further round of pro censorship legislation some of which might well have had a very detrimental effect. The agenda of the rightwing christians who support this kind of legislation is extremely antiporn but masquerades under the banner of protect the children.
A way must be found to combat piracy, but restricting free speach is not the answer.
Re: More Censorship
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 10:50 am
by NeilUK
Also, MSN and Yahoo will do the work for you if you see any of your stuff in a Yahoo group a simple email to yahoo and they close the group for you and give you details of the group owner. I am sure MSN do the same, there are some groups for Linsey Dawn that Scoreland.com are investigating now. Yahoo will help you Tomsk if you see anything that is yours in one of their groups. But stop members copying and downloading from your site and you will see a huge percentage of cancellations.
NeilUK
Re: More Censorship
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 2:31 pm
by MisterC
Tomsk wrote:
> The sooner Internet porn becomes pushed into
> members only sections is a good thing. Why should people have
> to pay for a model only for it to end up on newgroups and file
> sharing programs for free.
>
> The moment free porn is destroyed is the moment we get rid of
> the idiots on the internet.
>
Unfortunately a completely flawed and illogical argument.
Material is leeched whether or not it's in a members section - ever heard of hackers?
Free porn is great marketing tool - I bet you use TGP sites?
Any attempts at content regulation are likely to bite all purveyors of porn - legitimate or otherwise just as hard.
Re: More Censorship
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 2:44 pm
by Marino
In order to stop yourselves getting ripped off, in these troubled times on the net, do the safe thing, and stay with the names you know, the producers that are aways here. That way, your money should be safe whilst this mess is sorting itself out.
may i suggest
www.superdick.net