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Re: Genuine pickups

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2001 4:02 am
by Rimbaud
Not all porno is filmed with HIV certificates anyway, although in Ben's case this is obviously done, and his pick-ups are scripted. It is of course part of the illusion, and I don't think BATTY RIDAH is saying anything new!

It's not unusual for 'amateurs' titles to be filmed w/o testing. And on the basis that test results count for fuck all in the real world, it's probably not much more of a risk - although those for whom the industry is a profession are, of course, right to insist on testing as standard.

Re: Genuine pickups

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2001 4:08 am
by Rimbaud
It's hardly surprising that they're rare. Quite apart from the fact that the concept flouts industry standards as to health checking, imagine the huge efforts which would have to be put in for meaningful reward. A professional cameraman and a stud could roam the streets for a week, asking every girl they meet 'Hi, would you like to fuck me on camera for general release?' and they'd be lucky to avoid arrest, never mind get a single 'yes'.

It would take a month of solid footwork to get even one girl to participate, I reckon, just on the law of averages that 99.9999999999999999999% of them would say 'fuck off'. If you're applying any form of looks criteria, the odds are exponentially weaker and weaker. And you'd need three or four for a decent tape...

Nobody can afford to spend that amount of time banging their head off a wall. How would they pay the rent? Espescially when even a muppet like Rimbaud can phone an agency and get a fresh, good looking girl or four for filming within a day or two.

Re: Genuine pickups

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2001 4:50 am
by Daz
I think the seventeen EXCUSE ME series are the genuine article - I have seen a number of tapes in the series - only one contained what could be described as a hardcore scene - the movies usually run for around three hours and usually consist of at the most four unedited scenes. You have to sit through at least ten minutes of chat before Harry usually manges to get any of the girls to shed any clothes. If he is lucky they fully strip - if very lucky; they masturbate (maybe with a toy), and if he strike gold, they allow him to play with their pussy -AND THATS IT!!! If these videos are set up, the girls are the best adult actresses I have ever seen. Some show genuine nerves and reluctance about what is going on - Check out the young American girl in EXCUSE ME 10 - half an hour of chat - she strips, then runs off!!! Nothing I have seen in these tapes would constitute the need for an HIV test...

Re: Ben DOver

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2001 9:44 am
by Ben Dover
The early BD pickups were genuine. For a full answer to this question if you're interested go to my site. Click on the Discussion Forum [it's ok it's not a members thing] sign in and look under a post 'Ben's Changing Style' It's all explained there.

Re: Genuine pickups

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2001 10:48 am
by Maurie
Organise non pro girls however, and then set up the scene shown.
I don't think it is the same Harry, non of these girls seem to reappear in other h/c vids, and the length of time taken to persuade them to perform is not economic for a guy like Mr Morgan, and no penetration is shown, though the impression that it may take place is given some times. So there.

Re: Genuine pickups

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2001 11:48 am
by Bob
There is penetration in some - i was watching it in EM17 last night, but I speak German and there are usually indicators that the pick ups are not genuine, although I have seen a few which were faultless. Interesting thread. And I'm sorry I just don't believe Ben that early pickups were for real....which ones? Name a name Ben!

Re: Bens Site

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2001 3:42 pm
by magoo
Ben why do so many of the people who post on your site have an unhealthy fascination with your jizz-stick? I saw questions about its size, colour, lack of foreskin etc. Have you become a hero for the gay community or do your films now have a huge following in lunatic asylums?

Re: Genuine pickups

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2001 4:13 pm
by john
i,ve always thought penny in the ben film looks a bit like claudia winkleman, she even has small mole marks on her chest in the same places.

Re: Genuine pickups

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2001 12:07 am
by Jumbo
have to agree that Ben has never really given the impression to me that any of the pickups, even the early ones were real, at least in the hardcore scenes, although I believe more of an emphasise is put on this premise in the softcore adult channel episodes, there must be a lot of porn stars walking the high street, as to the Excuse Me series, if anybody was to believe that you could do this, then this is believable, very effective, probably because of the lack of b/g action, but I would definately like to take a bet that anybody no matter who they were:
a) would not have the brass neck to attempt it,
b) would waste a major part of their drinking time

I mean Shagnasty and Mutley ... priceless chat up lines and patter, who cares??

Re: Genuine pickups

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2001 10:04 am
by Maurie
Where did you get this tape from?