MY VIEWS ABOUT THE ADULT INDUSTRY

[katiek]

Yeah you do mr one eyed jack! You see me as just a pair of tits! haha

[videokim]

With the internet girls/models have better work conditions than ever before because if someone steps out of line we read about it the next day, this helps control the producers to a level whats acceptable to the model.
Years ago we didn't have this luxury & had to jump through hoops to get known so this is what Billy69 mistakes with stronger level porn, the internet polices porn in more ways than one & for models it as its plus side.
Models do have a choice now unlike when i started, models then were expected the do large gang-bangs on a starting level as this was the fashion & you did it or didn't work.
Porn is tamer than years ago yes but if this means better work conditions for models it can't be a bad thing, if a girl can hold back on doing B/G as long as she can it keeps them in more demand from what i can see on the net.

kim x

[one eyed jack]

Some girls cross over to bg when they are ready Billy. Be patient. That or they leave the business. Its the way its always been

Sounds to me a lot of girls are opting for gg to avoid having to explain they dont want to do pov/ gonzo type vids.

[Billy69]

i havent made any mistake at all i never said model dont have a choice

[one eyed jack]

Katie,

Thats not true...I happen tolove the rest of you too but its hard to look you in the eye with..Oh dear..Hole. dig, deep. Buried!

Guilty as charged!!!!! LOL

Billy noone is having a pop at you as far as I see. Just saying its always been like that and theres plenty of girls doing bg. Maybe not the ones you would like to but there are.

[KazB]

Also some girls also don't just do "porn" they also work in other sectors or do commercial work as well. Unfair as it seems those who tend to only work up to girl girl have a lot more opportunities available to them generally than those who do boy girl movies for the bulk of their work.

Then of course there are the heightened chances of transmitting sti's, sleazy old casting couch directors that think because a girl does bg she is a whore and she'd suck on his withered penis, fake certs, and for a lot of guys I think the way a lot of directors shoot porn still.....
Many still like to portray the girl as a dim witted trollop, pussy licking isn't seen that much and it's shot to show the girl being an object to gratify some sad fat old bastard and his motley crew.......

Porn is hot when the actors and actresses can enjoy it on some level but these out dated scenes could put off new talent.

[one eyed jack]

Kaz B

but these out dated scenes could put off new talent


Those who are best reading this dont frequent these forums Kaz and nor would they care if they did. They are notij this business to make money. I know this by the spineless comments I get from anonymous people I can only assume fit the category you describe and accuse me of trying to be some "saviour" to the industry without bearing in mind Ive been in the busines for years and happen to have a fair few friends in the frontlines of the proverbial trenches of porn.

They always post anonymously because they know deep down they are guilty of what you describe.

[Paul Taylor]

Hi I have found that,
alot of more well models who I have worked with over the 6 years has contacted me and asked for a shoot? I replied wow would love to work with you but didnt think you did b/g or you would of heard from me by now. There answer was exactly what Oney eyed jack said :

I do boy-girl but only for professionals and people who are certed and have a website, they said they get too many amateurs and people they have never heard off asking for POV work, but they did do published POV work.

They must be ok, saying g/g work and then picking who they want to shoot with for the boy-girl and must not be loosing out or they would explain this so people where aware they did shoot boy-girl with professional certed people for POV/Gonzo or any other type of b/g work

If you are starting out and depending on how you come across to models POV/Gonzo can still get a bad rap. I wouldnt like to think I was starting out again thats for sure.


Now people at least know of me or if they havent I can show them who I have worked with enough to know that I fall into the category of people they do work with.

However this is just a slim number of models, most models who say they only work to g/g do just that. The only time I have asked a model for b/g if they are down as g/g is if I have infact seen them somewhere else doing b/g and not knowing when the footage/stills was taken, I take a chance asking them, sometimes I miss the boat and sometimes they are still modelling to those levels, its all depends from model to model.

Models are out there, you just have to look, if you want b/g models they are there, I always seem to find them anyway, with the unknowns I find, hell sometimes I just shoot more well known models for balance of faces on my new up and coming site and just because I dont have a new girl to shoot and my updates are getting thin and under 6 months ahead.

Paul

[countb]

Just hope this isnt pulled because its meant to help.
In 25 years of experience in the industry(owning a coule of adult shops and seeing prob some 700 different girls,not meant to brag there)I have found that its better not to push any girl until they are ready to do the extreme levels we want.
A typical case is my current fav who is 23 yrs old,worked on reception only,then progressed to watching in the rooms,a month later she did topless,then 2 girl and now provides a full service(for me anyway)
She is attractive enough to venture into modelling,indeed shes quite beautiful and thats not used lightly.Her first promo test is this weekend.
Hope this helps because if I had pressured her,she would never be where she is now.

[one eyed jack]

Mind you Ive seen established people get aggressive with demanding models up their levels too.

I remeber years ago in Belgium a certain notable named porn star shouting at a girl who was just thinking about getting into the business and was scared off by his attitude. He accused her of wasiting his time and I stepped in and told him its not like shes thinking about getting a job at Mickey Deez mate.

The act of sucking and fucking is an invasive thing to a woman and she has to be "seduced". Screaming its all about work just makes it sound cold and horrible.

I never got laid in my life with that attitude. So getting paid for it needs a different tactic than just being all about the money.

I see some models on really good money that look the part but shouldnt be doing it because they are so clearly not into it.