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Hey Holly ,I loved the Batman Begins but the Dark Knight just wasn't the same with out the Bat Cave.

The only thing about Dark Knight that I really disliked was how Harvey Dent became Two-Face.

Holly D wrote:

> I dont like the Tim Burton Batman movies or the following two but
> Batman Begins and Dark Knight are good and true enough to the
> comics for me.
>

No love for 'Batman Returns'? Catwoman? Oswald Cobblepot (and Pee Wee Herman as his dad)? Penguins with ROCKET LAUNCHERS???

Who doesn't love penguins with rocket launchers??? !shocked!

Oh Holly. Why so serious?
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ok, the penguins with rocket launchers are cool but overall its a terrible movie. How could Tim Burton take it so far away from the comics? Tim Burton is great when he does his own thing but as soon as he gets his hands on other peoples stories, he just destroys them. Charlie and The Chocolate Factory is another perfect example of this.

Holly you are so right about Charlie and The Chocolate Factory

A woman after my own heart - Burton went for the darkness, which was the right idea - but then went OTT with the design of the movies. That said, I still reckon Michael Keaton was the best Batman in the movies. He had just the right edge of madness about him.
And bgafdfan, in the 1970s and 80s comics, Bruce Wayne moved from the Manor to a penthouse on top of the Wayne Foundation building, under which was a new, modern batcave.
And yes, I need to get out more. I'll get my anorak.

no way, George Clooney was the best Batman! hahahaha only Joking! I would seriously punch the casting manager right in the face for letting George fucking Clooney and his rubber "nipple" suit butcher the Batman character. And dont get me started on Arnie as Mr Freeze! lol

Holly D wrote:

> no way, George Clooney was the best Batman! hahahaha only
> Joking! I would seriously punch the casting manager right in
> the face for letting George fucking Clooney and his rubber
> "nipple" suit butcher the Batman character. And dont get me
> started on Arnie as Mr Freeze! lol
>
>

No-one is sending him to the cooler! !wink!

Bat-nipples aside, all those films had amazing costumes (Arnie's Mr.Freeze Armour?!!! !shocked!).

So ok, in the end it was various forms of "Batman: the Opera", it was still gorgeous to look at. More's the pity about some of the stories really... !sad!

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I thought Arnie was Buzz lightyear in that movie!!

You should get a hold of An audience with Kevin smith. He talks about how he almost did Superman reborn, how the producer is a prick and how Tim Burton wouldn`t know batman from his bellend. Hence shit like having the joker kill Bruce Wayne`s parents.
I mean this is the guy who wanted Nicolas cage as Superman.