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Re: Films where the baddie wins
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 8:57 am
by eC
There's also the classice Great Escape in which all the heros fail to win.
Re: Films where the baddie wins
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 10:19 am
by Caractacus
If I thought Dickie Attenborough was gearing up for a long speech, I'd unpack the machine guns too!
You could argue that the utterly insane (but by then long dead) General Jack D. Ripper wins at the end of Dr Strangelove; certainly the rest of the planet loses.
Re: Films where the baddie wins
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 11:55 am
by IdolDroog
oh crap clockwork orange what a dumbass forgot my fav film nurrrrrrr
been into it since was about 15 and paid over 50? to get it when was banned and converted it hehe....also...not exaccccctly to the point but who really won in reservoir dogs....mr pink? ...seemed like a nice character but was still a pro criminal....
Re: Films where the baddie wins
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 12:18 pm
by Ace
Nobody won in Res Dogs, Mr Pink escaped and a few seconds later, you heard loudspeakers and LOTS of bullets.
Re: Films where the baddie wins
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 12:40 pm
by IdolDroog
oh really lol i never noticed that i thought he snuck out the back door and the sirens were because of what was going on with mr white orange and the police etc.....oh well i guess didnt alter my thoughts that much still...woulda thought tarantino woulda let one survive...bit more classy that everyone dying, seems a bit like a student film otherwise....
Re: Films where the baddie wins
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 12:49 pm
by steve56
just like to say if you liked reservoir dogs,check out the big combo starring cornel wilde,brian donlevy, lee van cleef,its almost an early version theres a character called mr brown ,wonder if tarantino got the idea from this one.
Re: Films where the baddie wins
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 12:56 pm
by droog
is it chinese cos the plot of dogs came from chinese film and then maybe the names came from something else...still...good work tho eheh
Re: Taking of Pelham 123
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 1:13 pm
by Ace
The names Mr Brown, Blue etc came from a belter of a 70's film (Help!!!!! I'm sounding like Steve56) called The Taking of Pelham 123 with Robert Shaw and Walter Matthau. Superb film, it really is!!
Re: Films where the baddie wins
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 3:20 pm
by Hitman
How about 'Silience of the Lambs' at the end Hannibal Lector gets away and says the famous words "I'm having a friend for dinner" Hes a winner in that one.
I was going to say 'Resivoir Dogs' myself but all get killed so no winner there.
How about Matrix 2, the hero Neo trys stopping the bullets but ends up almost dead, if not dead? none of the heros can claim a win in that.
Re: Films where the baddie wins
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2003 3:26 pm
by lovemunkey187
Tarrantino admits that two of the biggest influences on Dogs were the Hong Kong films
Ringo Lam's City On Fire, starring Chow Yun Fat
and
John Woo's A Better Tomorrow II, also starring Mr Chow and the Shaw Brothers Studio Veteran Ti Lung.
COF was the main plot inspiration and ABTII was where the suits and sunglasses came from.
Pump Up The Volume, free speach loses out
Just about any film starring either Chow Yun Fat or 'Beat' Takashi Kitano
Braveheart, William Wallace doesn't make it to the end credits