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Sorry photo-taker but now I'm getting the feeling you are tarring all foreigners with the same brush. Not everyone who is muslim is a terrorist. You never said those words but you are using the few to imply them all.

We are treading thin ice. While I understand your anger, you sound like you are becoming blinkered because of it.

Shipping everyone of colour back to "their" respective countries isn't going to resolve the issue. While we're on this subject: If foreigners are an issue here, where do you draw the line when a white guy like Michael Ryan lost it years ago and took a shotgun to kill people at random. No one saw this coming and he took out a few innocent people before turning the gun on himself too. Does that make you feel ashamed to be British?

Why stop at the terrorists? What about the kiddy fiddlers, the neo-nazis and pub bombings several years back. Where do we stop? Do you feel safer if a bunch of muslim fanatics were deported? For every action there is a reaction and if memory serves me correct mr Bin Laden waged his 9/11 beacause of george Bush stand on foreign policy, the US hit back with Iraq. Suddenly the worlds problems are at our very doorstep now and this is how you think we should handle it.

Besides, given what they (the bombers) are doing, I doubt it had f**k all to do with Allah mate. These guys are just dumb fucking dangerous idiots who hide behind a cause that will not get them anywhere but dead or in prison for life- full stop!

Given your take on things photo-taker you are running the risk of being just as bad as them by being indiscriminate in your suggestions. This is were it gets tricky. Stay focussed here without resorting to hate mongering. That is dangerous in itself and will not get anybody anywhere but lost in a storm of semantics.

This is the sort of thing terrorists like to do, cause fear, confusion, disruption and economic collapse and by making commentts like that, you are playing into their hands. Yours is the type of thinking your enemies want you to think. There not doing this to win hearts and minds.

Try posting when you are sober.

Mart

not sure the childish sarcasm does you any favours, but the simple fact is bugger all of the western countries have the death penalty apart from the US and it aint done much good for them, you aint getting the death penalty however much you stamp your foot or give me smart arsed comments, get over it

Wow MR OEJ, that is probably the most reasoned and articulate argument I've read thus far since all this terrorist stuff blew up (No pun intended by the way). Respect.

Did you get anywhere with that contact in BP?

These people will kill anyone and no doubt I would be included in that but they can kill no one if they are in prison for the next 40-50 years.

And these are not non UK people. They are British.

You have your opinion and I have mine but I've experienced the hell that can be prison and these people deserve to suffer this hell.

A bullet is too quick and easy for them.

I see no point in killing them. I don't believe in a state imposed death penalty and I never will ... but if one of them had accidentally fallen over the balcony it wouldn't have bothered me either. But in reality they should be locked up for life, with no chance of parole. If it ever came to the point they were released then I would like to see them deported back to their country of origin, in the same way Australia has just given us the gift of that paedophile. It wouldn't surprise me if they do get out in about 15 years, once the psychiatrists and doctors claim they're really nice blokes, but had a hard life and were suffering from Toxic Shock Syndrome - or some other absurd disorder.

I think people are overlooking the fact of the matter....any prison sentence for these bastards will invariably be a death sentence. They are going to be about 100 times less popular than the nonces, and there will be no shortage of people looking for them inside, and looking to make a name for themselves and 'even up the score' etc.

If they're smart, they'll sing like canaries so that they're worth something alive to the intelligence services....otherwise, I don't see anyone doing them any favours.

Maybe once on the inside someone will kill some of them, it's a distinct possibility. They probably will be allowed to pray and have a special diet, but I'd flush their Quoran and feed them what everyone else gets.

I've had two mates who have both served time inside. Both are big lads who can look after themselves and both went in for minor offences so they served most of their time in lower security prisons or whatever the correct terminology is.

Trust me Photo-Taker that both blokes admitted that they were scared shitless even in these relatively "Cushy" prisons. One mate served six months in Norwich and during that short time two guys killed themselves just on his wing alone and my buddy came close to topping himself too. It really isn't a nice place to be!

I see your point and it is galling to read about the likes of Ian Huntley enjoying Playstation sessions and the bleeding hearts banging on about the sodding human rights of terrorists and other maniacs but I wouldn't want to serve a minute inside.