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For people who the biggest decision they will make this week is what shirt they should wear it must be difficult to imagine what it is like to have a split second to decide whether to shoot or not. If he had been a bomber and the police chased him onto the train and he detonated the bomb, we would hear everyone saying that the police should have shot him before he boarded. It was a mistake, tragic but a mistake so all this police bashing is the usual nonsense we expect from the tree hugging fraternity. Look round the world at the different method of policing, I'm happy enough with ours.

As for this outpouring of grief from the Brazilians, I've no doubt we have shipped most of his family over here and will pay for them to sue the Met. and chances are most of them will stay here even though we treat people so badly. As for the Brazilian Governments indignation, perhaps they should concentrate more on the 1000's of children starving on the streets of Rio.

I would be absolutely amazed and dumbfounded if ANY gun carrying person in authority failed to give the requisite warnings before opening fire... absolutely amazed...

This kind of post confirms one of my fears that people will use this tragedy as an opportunity for their ulterior motive of having a pop at the police.I think the police have done a fantastic job in general since 7th July especially with the swift capture of the four would be suicide bombers.Having used the tube since the bombings I have found the police a reassuring prescence. Lets not forget who the real villains of this whole thing are namely the wicked cowardly scumbags that murdered 52 innocent people in London.

No one is denying that, King Pin. But we also have the right to expect our police not to just grab anyone and execute them without warning. That's more what the Brazilian police do to clear up the problem of street crime.

I feel it's worth asking oneself just why a police officer would wish to become an authorised firearms officer in the first place.

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If he had been a bomber and the police chased him onto the train and he detonated the bomb, we would hear everyone saying that the police should have shot him before he boarded. It was a mistake, tragic but a mistake so all this police bashing is the usual nonsense we expect from the tree hugging fraternity.

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That's the whole point though!

He WASN'T chased onto the train, he WASN'T carrying a bag/rucksack, he WASN'T wearing a heavy/bulky coat.

He was even identified as IC1 by one member of the surveilance team. That means WHITE!!!! Not Asian, or black.

So how could they have mistaken him for one of the previous day's failed bombers? And if they DID think he was a bomber, why let him travel so far? Bus, leisurely walk into the station, run down a few stairs as he hears the tube approach, sit in a seat, get pinned down and executed.

Nice work by the Met... that bunch of (mostly) uniformed thugs that became Maggie Thatcher's private army in the 80's and who think they can still carry on however they like.

Senior members of the Met Police, including the Commissioner and the head of the Anti-terrorist force have lied from the begining. Furthermore someone in the Met made the decision to send the trigger-happy murderer on leave. If it were you or I we'd be on remand!

I hear B&Q are starting to run out of whitewash!

i know a couple of armed officers and its simply the thrill of carrying a gun. They find it exciting and feel important. Might sound cliched but, at least in their case, its true. Personally, i find that more than a little disturbing. People that never grew up but using weapons that arent made of plastic and shoot real bullets.

hey Nobby, with that in mind maybe we should expect the same to happen to our citizens who are now ex-pat in Spain and the US....Maybe even our beloved girls who go to the US should get shot in the head 8 times for over staying their visas too.

As for us tax payers paying the bill. Well, I'm a tax payer and a supporter of our police come rain or shine. Occasionally they fuck up like everyone else and I don't mind compensation being made due to a guy even if he was overstaying his permit. He was wrongly killed. Life is precious and that poor guy will be missed by those who loved him. Obviously you couldnt give a shit Thank god you're not in charge eh?

While we're at it Nobby, maybe you agree with the beheading of people like Nick Berg and Ken Bigley too...Maybe they shouldnt have been there in Iraq? Or was it all the more tragic because they had permnission to be there?

Think of the chain reaction that lead to the event of Jean Charles de Menezes death....He was brazilian. Does that mean its open season on all people of colour if they fit the look of a muslim extremist? What does a muslim extremist look like? Lets not forget the religion is not indigenous to all people of a darker hue. There are some white folks who are muslim too but then I expect a lot of people here wouldnt know that.

That is precisely what I was getting at, Tone.

Very disturbing.

The very fact that a police officer wishes to become an authorised firearms officer should exclude him from consideration!.