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Re: Turning terrorism into terror? isn?t
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:49 pm
by mart
Could you perhaps explain what change you are talking about. What freedoms are being denied?
Mart
Re: Turning terrorism into terror? isn?t
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:09 pm
by Pervert
The freedom to wear black and goosestep, while referring to those of a different skin pigmentation with endearing hilarious derogatory names.
Scientists have discovered that chimpanzees and humans share 99% of the same DNA. There is a sizeable amount of our fellow white, Christian natives that seem to share about that amount with tapeworms---but they're not as easily recognisable as "an immigrant."
The thing is, these tough talkers going on about nuking cities, jailing innocent civilians and throwing out those who follow a different religion seem to think the rest of the world would sit casually by while they did it. This island has evolved because of the various cultures that have arrived here for centuries. There was no white Anglican golden age. Or are you just sorry that you weren't born in an era when British folk could wander the globe being abusive and insulting to lesser nations with impunity.
Try turning all your lovely arguments on their heads and imagining them as schemes by Mugabe or Assad, against white Christians, and see how much you approve of them.
Re: Turning terrorism into terror? isn?t
Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:31 pm
by Pretty_Joe
I see some liberal lefty pansies reside on this forum too. Let me answer some of your comments.
Firstly Tone a paniky reaction is better than NO reaction and that is certainly what Britain seems to be doing. Firstly I did not mean deport Muslims home, I meant stop future Muslims from entering the country until we can trust them again. Visa applications have been suspended for all sorts of reasons in the past, e.g. the Russians and eastern Europeans during the cold war, Argies during the Falklands, in fact Britain had a process of only opening its doors to those people in its Empire. If you were not part of the Commonwealth you had little chance of entering this country. So selective immigration does happen.
Also your ?Censorship is a tool of fascism? claim is the silliest comment I have ever heard. Censorship IS needed. Remember the birth of the internet? Remember all the sick child rape sites that were freely available? It was only until the censorship army came around that those kind of sites were closed down. Censorship doesn?t erase things but it does cut them down.. Stations like Al-Jazeera and people like George Galloway only fuel the minds of these lunatics and ignorant lefties. Bringing them to the mainstream only brainwashes more people into thinking the bombings were justifiable.
Keeping clerics in this country only strengthens the motivations of those brainless people that support them. Deporting the clerics will NOT strengthen any resolve as the brainless people that support them don?t have any. They are simply brain-dead puppets that need to be dictated.
The reason I said immediate spouses should be locked up is because it could provide a deterrent for anyone thinking of doing another suicide bomb. You can?t threaten potential suicide bombers with imprisonment can you?
Finally steve38 I think you have found the final piece to my manifesto jigsaw however I will change Neighbors to Prisoners Cell Block H. There were no fit birds in that program.
I think my proposals are ready to be faxed to Number 10 now.
Re: Turning terrorism into terror? isn?t
Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:51 am
by Pervert
"I see some liberal lefty pansies reside on this forum too."
Ah, the sensible view as espoused by the sort of Americans who name their sons after that great warrior (though only in movies, never in real life) and hard man John Wayne. Anyone who doesn't go along with the rabid views must be sexually suspect.
It must be nice living in a world of absolutes, with only black and white, wrong and right, and no grey areas at all.
Re: Turning terrorism into terror? isn?t
Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 3:48 am
by steve56
used to fancy annalise in neighbours .Pretty_Joe wrote:
> I see some liberal lefty pansies reside on this forum too. Let
> me answer some of your comments.
>
> Firstly Tone a paniky reaction is better than NO reaction and
> that is certainly what Britain seems to be doing. Firstly I did
> not mean deport Muslims home, I meant stop future Muslims from
> entering the country until we can trust them again. Visa
> applications have been suspended for all sorts of reasons in
> the past, e.g. the Russians and eastern Europeans during the
> cold war, Argies during the Falklands, in fact Britain had a
> process of only opening its doors to those people in its
> Empire. If you were not part of the Commonwealth you had little
> chance of entering this country. So selective immigration does
> happen.
>
> Also your ?Censorship is a tool of fascism? claim is the
> silliest comment I have ever heard. Censorship IS needed.
> Remember the birth of the internet? Remember all the sick child
> rape sites that were freely available? It was only until the
> censorship army came around that those kind of sites were
> closed down. Censorship doesn?t erase things but it does cut
> them down.. Stations like Al-Jazeera and people like George
> Galloway only fuel the minds of these lunatics and ignorant
> lefties. Bringing them to the mainstream only brainwashes more
> people into thinking the bombings were justifiable.
>
> Keeping clerics in this country only strengthens the
> motivations of those brainless people that support them.
> Deporting the clerics will NOT strengthen any resolve as the
> brainless people that support them don?t have any. They are
> simply brain-dead puppets that need to be dictated.
>
> The reason I said immediate spouses should be locked up is
> because it could provide a deterrent for anyone thinking of
> doing another suicide bomb. You can?t threaten potential
> suicide bombers with imprisonment can you?
>
> Finally steve38 I think you have found the final piece to my
> manifesto jigsaw however I will change Neighbors to Prisoners
> Cell Block H. There were no fit birds in that program.
>
> I think my proposals are ready to be faxed to Number 10 now.
>
>
Re: Turning terrorism into terror? isn?t
Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:14 am
by nachovx
You can't be serious, but assuming you don't know that the 60's is regarded by most historians as the most important decade of the 20th century for social/cultural change - the 1960s permanently changed social and cultural values around the world.the hippie movement, anti-Vietnam War protests, college sit-ins, race riots, the drug scene, the pop art movement, psychedelic imagery etc. etc.
It was a decade when people started to challenged the legitimacy of the government?s creation and implication of laws designed to keep the middle-class down.
The liberal thinking of the '60s gave us the roots of modern-day erotic cinema, magazines and porn ... porn was legalised in Denmark in 1967 and most of Europe followed ... the UK didn't.
Don't forget we had to wait until 2000 to get the European Human Rights Act and guarantee certain freedoms. We have no written constitution so any rights given can easily be taken away by another government.
Re: Turning terrorism into terror? isn?t
Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:51 am
by Pretty_Joe
Caractacus people like you
just like to sit on the fence and defend everybody and everything.
I did not mean ALL censorship is good. But censorship is needed. Becuase true
freedom actually alieniates and opresses other people. E.g. the children involved in pedofillia where the innocent victims of somebody else's freedom.
Yes the Iraq war WAS wrong but is it right to blow up 52 Londoners becuase of it? If we do not do something serious about this then others will occur!
Re: Turning terrorism into terror? isn?t
Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:19 am
by mart
Oh, I see its all about porn. Well, there are more important things to be concerned about.
Mart
Re: Turning terrorism into terror? isn?t
Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:39 am
by diplodocus
your ideas about terrorism are amazing, they almost sound like a copy of Isreal's policy - they bomb us so we'll bomb them and try to keep them out with a big wall. Their ideas have really worked over the years and protected themselves well.
would you have advocated deporting all the Irish for the IRA atrocities? I doubt it, so why brand all Muslims a potential danger.
small thinking to a complex problem
Re: Turning terrorism into terror? isn?t
Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:39 am
by Rude Boy
Yawn. Same old bollocks.