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Re: david cameron

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:43 am
by Rude Boy
"As far as I know his wealth is inherited"

Oh well in that case he can't possibly be a good leader then can he? I love this notion that inherited wealth is something to be ashamed of. What are parents supposed to do with their assets? Only in Britain do we have this ridiculous guilt about being well off as if it is something to be ashamed of.

How do you know his entire employment history anyway?

Re: david cameron

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:01 am
by David Johnson
"How do you know his entire emplyment history anyway?"
I read....
Raised near Wantage in Oxfordshire, the son of stockbroker Ian Donald Cameron, he was educated at Eton and Brasenose College, Oxford. He graduated in 1988 with a first class honours degree in Philosophy, Politics, and Economics. He is married to Samantha Sheffield and has two children.

David worked for the Conservative Research Department between 1988 and 1992, spending two days a week in Downing Street on the Prime Minister's Question Time briefing team. After the election he became a Special Advisor to the Conservative government, first at the Treasury (working for Norman Lamont at the time of Black Wednesday) and then the Home Office, where he worked for Michael Howard. Between 1994 and 2001 he was the Director of Corporate Affairs at Carlton Communications and until August 2005 he was a non-executive director of Urbium PLC, operator of the Tiger Tiger bar chain.

Of course, the guy cant choose which family he has been borne into. What interests me, is why a guy with such limited political experience as an MP as well as in terms of running things either inside or outside of parliament, should come from being a rank outsider to a hot favourite to get elected. Personally, I think its because the Tories think of him as their Tony Blair who is going to attract the electorate.

Cheers
David

Re: david cameron

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:21 am
by tone
I do'nt have much knowledge about the man, to the point that 95% of what i've learnt about him has been gleaned from this thread today. All I can base my opinion on is the intuitive feeling I get from the man after watching his speech's on the news. Using this as a basis, he comes across as an insincere smoothy and a kind of, more velveteen, real life equivalent of Alan B'stard. My 'gut' does'nt like him at all. There's a big difference between being able to capably run a country and projecting an image/persona of a man that can capably run a country. I am doubtfull of any substance to him.

Re: david cameron

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:31 am
by Rude Boy
Well I suggest you pay more attention next time you "Read" as this potted history you provide lists two "Proper Jobs."

Re: david cameron

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:38 am
by David Johnson
????

Re: david cameron

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:15 am
by eroticartist
Hi All,

Just ask David if he will take back the civil liberities this Christian Socialist Prime Minister has taken from the people if we elect him.
Mike Freeman





Re: david cameron

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:18 am
by David Johnson
Just to clarify what I mean by ????
Cameron lists only one job in his own CV on his website - that is the PR job at Carlton. The non-executive director role at Urbium is not even listed in his own version of his CV.
I suspect that there are possibly two reasons for this.
1. Non-executive directorships are not "proper" jobs as such but tend to be little earners which MPs of all parties do on the side. Some MPs have umpteen non-executive directorships. Basically they provide advice on legislation going through pariliament on a consultancy basis and can, in certain cases, act as unofficial lobbyist in return for some readies . Cameron got 28K per year for his involvement which is peanuts for some one with his wealth and background.
2. What is more likely to be the reason for this not being in his CV is that Urbium is primarily a late night bar business which has aggressively campaigned for late night bar extensions against Westminster council. Given that the Tory policy on licensing law changes was that it was an ill-thought out mess , a license for binge drinkers and should be scrapped, this was causing considerable embarrassment for Cameron, hence its omission from his website.
There you go
David

Re: david cameron

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:30 am
by Rude Boy
"Non-executive directorships are not "proper" jobs as such"

Says who? I know many cases where a non-executive director is massively important to a business. How on earth can you say ?28,000 is peanuts? You have no idea of his financial position.

Re: david cameron

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:05 am
by colin
i prefer cameron to davies. i hope he wins the leadership contest and then we can all give him a chance to prove what he's about. the tories can't do any worse than they are doing now, so why not give him a chance !
i see nothing wrong with inexperience, at least he's less chance of having been corrupted by power and influence as a vast majority of politicians have !


Re: david cameron

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:29 am
by David Johnson
Hi
Non-executive directorships are not "proper" jobs as such"

First, he himself doesnt refer to it on his CV as a job. Secondly, it has never been a full-time directorship. Thirdly, the MD of Urbium was quoted as saying that he was brought in to provide advice on legislation going thru parliament. If Cameron doesnt see it himself as a job worthy of mention, that's good enough for me. Who am I to contradict him?

Says who? I know many cases where a non-executive director is massively important to a business. How on earth can you say ?28,000 is peanuts? You have no idea of his financial position.

David Cameron is the Eton educated son of a stockbroker. He has many Tory aristocratic connections. He is an MP. He is Deputy Chairman of the Tory party and Shadow Spokesman on Education. Do you really think he is short of a few bob, Rude Boy? He has resigned from the post anyway and replaced it with nothing so it was hardly an important part of his income, wouldnt you say?

I suspect this thread must be starting to get tedious, so I'l finish my involvement. Rather than keep saying "How do you know etc. etc.", search the Net. All of this stuff is readily available from a variety of sources.

Cheers
David