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Re: The BNP

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:40 pm
by Gentleman
At what point did i say that i agree with all they stand for? If the main parties addressed the issues which the BNP party use to garner votes then there wouldnt be the oxygen for the to exsist.

I see a vote for them as a medium for change once they got alot of votes that couldnt all be put down to racists and crackpots they would have to consider doing things differently.

Re: The BNP

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:08 pm
by kinetic
Gentleman wrote:

> At what point did i say that i agree with all they stand for?
> If the main parties addressed the issues which the BNP party
> use to garner votes then there wouldnt be the oxygen for the to
> exsist.

So you'd vote for them on how many issues? I mean, I agree with points 5, 6, 7, 9 and 24 of the 25 point Programme of the NSDAP but I'm stopping short of invading Poland and expecting an increase in the gas bill !adolf!

You know maybe I'm being dumb, but I just can't get my head around why people would even consider voting for them. I've seen the hate and damage these people cause and wouldn't consider voting for them in a million years - but maybe I'm out of touch with the modern British voter.

There's also the fact that given the power - they wouldn't know what to do with it once they'd "shipped them all back home" - who gets the blame for the problems in this country then?

Re: The BNP

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:10 pm
by dynatech
It has to be said (and I am not a BNP supporter at all) that the main parties are, quite obviously, keen to discredit the BNP with voters anyway they can. I'm sure if they could get away with branding each other racists & nazi's etc then they would do it, but the old-boys network they operate in have codes of conduct that cannot be broken.
Whatever the main parties' disagreements and squabbles, the fact is they treat politics as a game between each other (many lib-dem's, tories & labour arseholes are actually mates), the BNP are just not part of this club and are treated accordingly, which is why most MP's choose to ignore the issues that are increasing the BNP's appeal with voters.
If the BNP don't treat voters with contempt (a la the 3 main parties) they will experience a continued growth in popularity whilst the others, as they have been doing for the past 15 years or so, further the indifference most potential voters have fostered to politics due to the fact that this exclusive boys club and their silly protocol just want votes and election time and do not represent their public properly. I would go as far as to say, the majority of MPs know that their public are morons and treat them accordingly.


Re: The BNP

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:17 pm
by dynatech
Neither can I
But then again, I can't get my head around why people vote (therefore APPROVING) any of the 3 main parties either nowadays, and their ridiculous self-serving agenda of lies, exaggerations and patronising. Perhaps it because these MP's obvious beliefs are true - the majority of the UK electorate are absolute fools. They are certainly treated as such, and keep coming back for more.
> You know maybe I'm being dumb, but I just can't get my head
> around why people would even consider voting for them. I've
> seen the hate and damage these people cause and wouldn't
> consider voting for them in a million years - but maybe I'm out
> of touch with the modern British voter.


Re: The BNP

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:37 pm
by kinetic
Which I agree with - as I've said before - a common sense party would win with a landslide. But 99% of people have neither the know how (to get into "the game") or the effort. I'm just as guilty as everyone else!

Re: The BNP

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:15 pm
by dynatech

Re: The BNP

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:25 pm
by kinetic
Excellent! Appreciate the link - I hated Happy Talk but I like what he's saying on there!

Re: The BNP

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:24 pm
by one eyed jack
Interesting to know there are a bunch of very frustrated at the system folks whom I strongly suspect to be white feeling disenfrancjhised with the way they are being treated and not without good reason it seems.

It would be interesting to see if the BNP won their constituency just how effective they would be as a local government and if indeed they would live up to their promises. I'm pretty damn sure they will be effective in the immigration control department (which I'm not against entirely) but my worry is if they are so focussed on this that they lose sight of other important agendas that need addressing and whether they do a better or worse job than their predecessors.

I cant help but feel a bit cynical that if the BNP had their own borough that we can look forward to 'No darkies allowed' signs outside pubs but more important while the BNP hide behind their mask of nationalism I'm sure we'll get the young fanatic foot soldiers (morons with no real political agenda than just hating non whites and wanting a jolly good scrap, all proud and feeling protected to smash up the odd paki shop here and there.

Having read Mein Kampf I believe Hitler garnered support in much the same way by feeding off the same emotions and look what happened to Germany. Seems some people do not learn anything from history...But maybe some of you here feel given a second chance at nationalism you might do a better job.

The sad thing is I can see it all coming already but deep down I feel the more frustrated of you see this as an answer to all your ills.

Better to do a deal with the devil as a last resort then eh? Some of you just dont think and are so consumed by your own rage that it wil in turn eventually engulf you and your very souls but you wont see it coming until the day you realise there is no happiness that will come from this..for anyone. Black, white or other. This will only sew the seeds for discontent and distrust which leads no one anywhere.

So you are not racist? Theres nothing wrong with a bit of prejudice. Thats your god given right but you should ultimately know what you are buying into in the long run and stand up to be counted when the bomb goes boom.

Then ask yourself this: Was that the best way to deal with this problem?


Re: The BNP

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:04 pm
by Pervert
I'd hack my own leg off with a rusty knife before I'd vote for those hate-mongers----but what do I know.

Historical note for some of you. The Nazis never won an election; they garnered a fair amount of support in 1933, and were asked to form the government----and things went to buggery from then on, with no more of those election thingies to worry about. All of those considering a "protest" vote for them should bear that in mind.

Dressing their leaders up in suits instead of black shirts doesn't make them any less objectionable.

There's been a whiff of Nuremberg around this place for at least 18 months, and I'd hoped it was a temporary thing. But when people whose opinions I respect (respected) start saying they'd vote BNP, it's time to jump ship.

Probably the fault of the mods for having a union jack logo. That attracts right-wing tosspots like blood attracts sharks.