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exactly. they can't do something like this without violating our civil rights and being accused of being a police state.......oh, wait.....damn!:(

time to start watching "relocation, relocation: abroad", terry? natch!!!!!!!!!1111111111!grin!

one eyed jack wrote:

> There will be some changes coming up, but nothing
> ground-shaking in the short term.
>
> You mean like a tremor from the distance before we get a full
> on eathquake off the Richter scale Jerry? That still doesnt
> sound very comforting.

I believe that they intend online certification to be voluntary, not mandatory. In the long term, there will be advantages to having content certificated, but in the short term it will only mean that you get the right to display the R18 logo on your web site.

There is new EU legislation to regulate the net, that needs to be in place by 2010. So I'd expect any bigger changes are still a couple of years away, and we don't really know what they will be.

I hope to have more details after next Thursday.

It may be that too many interfering laws make it hard to enforce them, however the threat of 3 years for looking at 'forbidden' porn will be a bloody good incentive to a lot of people, just in case they take their computer into PC world for repair and get shopped.
Also, if you have read some of the police submissions to the H. O.'s consultation charade last year, you will see that for a lot of coppers comming down heavy on porn users of all kinds is very high on their agenda and will be as soon as this ridiculous legislation gets on the books.

Bloody typical innit? For all the adversity facing all of us on a daily basis a man can't even wank in peace anymore. No wonder there is so much stress.

Wanking is good for the heart. Not to mention good exercise for couch potatoes. Cant the British Heart Foundation get in there and help promote this?

what would the european union have to say about this,surely if its legal in other countries it should be the same here too,try the human rights act and make it work for us for once.

tommy dickfingers wrote:

> what would the european union have to say about this,surely if
> its legal in other countries it should be the same here too,try
> the human rights act and make it work for us for once.

The EU has agreed legislation, but it just instructs each country to put its own rules into place by 2010 - it's up to each country what it chooses to do. To be fair, the UK is now one of the less restrictive countries when it comes to porn and media in general. People think of relaxed EU places like Denmark and Holland but forget about the more repressive countries like Ireland, France and Poland.

PS - the rightwing press hate the Human Rights Act and slate it constantly, but it's an important piece of legislation for defending freedom. Don't believe all you read about it: like the recent lies about the police not being able to issue photos of escaped criminals.

You forget that the Government put in a 'back door' to that particular piece of legislation.

Now besides that I have a real problem with the BBFC. They censor, sorry classify films to ensure viewers are protected from harm and there is no likelihood to deprave and corrupt. So let's look at pissing:

At R18 no problem, as long as it is not on each other. So why don't they allow it? If they have any evidence, which censorship MUST be based upon, that this is likely to 'deprave and corrupt', then this should be published. It's not published, they take thier advice from the CPS. Then the CPS should publish. They don't. They simply decide that under the OPA it would be found obscene and therefore it is not allowed. But if you look at the OPA it is quite specific that material is 'suitable for prosecution' and not 'prosecutable'. There is a big difference. Suitable means that it may or may not be found obscene where as prosecutable means that it is obscene. And then even if you go to court as 'suitable for prosecution' you may find your material is in fact not obscene.

And let us not forget that the BBFC claimed thet pornography was likely to deprave and corrupt up until 2000 when they were challenged to produce the evidence at the High Court. They couldn't and guess what? R18 had in fact been legal since the introduction of the VRA!!! And they take thier advice from the CPS.....

So neither the BBFC or the CPS is acting 'in the public interest' nor would it appear legally and now they are going to get their hands on the internet?

Anybody that has read the ETO will know how keen the Police are very keen to enforce the VRA on download material but the BBFC are not a law-enforcement unit and therefore cannot act in affairs of law enforcement and therfore take no issue with enforcing the law. So the BBFC have no purpose with the internet unless the VRA is ammended and that my friends, is the real problem.

Strictlybroadband wrote...
'PS - the rightwing press hate the Human Rights Act and slate it constantly, but it's an important piece of legislation for defending freedom. Don't believe all you read about it: like the recent lies about the police not being able to issue photos of escaped criminals.'

Cant agree more. Even with Blair trying to hack at the edges, it is one of the most important pieces of legislation of the past few years. Pity about so much else they have done.

And:
'People think of relaxed EU places like Denmark and Holland but forget about the more repressive countries like Ireland, France and Poland.'

Surely France has had a pretty relaxed attitude for the past 20 years since they decided that if people wanted it let them have it, but heavily taxed.