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Ok ok...I've calmed down abit and thought about this. As much as I would love to have the game I have to defend (gasp) the BBFC role in making this decision to reject it and why you cant totally hate censorship.

Lets face it there will always be some kind of censorship that should be endorsed. Just because you think you are of sound mind and judgement and should have the right as an adult to watch what you want doesnt mean that everyone is like yourself.

I do believe there has to be a moral standard set to protect various groups such as minors and those of a mentally disturbed disposition. If you dont believe in censorship then I'll give you an example right here...Would you be happy if you saw child pornography and snuff films openly on sale in shops for ?9.99 a throw?...Exactly. While that is an extreme example you have to consider the merits (or lack of) that mindless violence as entertainment has on the social fabric of society and think beyond your own selfish wants and desires here and understand that organisations like the BBFC are not the big bad guys we always make them out to be.

Hell I even agree with Ofcom pussyfooting on their decisions to allow hardcore on terrestrial television. Plenty of tits and arse compensate the nations want for a bit of lady flesh and lust. If you want the good hard stuff then go to the internet. I'm more in favour of classification than just censorship but then lets face it, some things should be censored or in this case , even rejected. I imagine that Man Hunt 2 went into territory that superceded its predecessor which blurs the line between sick fantasy and entertainment.

Right. That said I'm getting off my soapbox and having a nice cup of tea.

I'm still smarting about it though

I think to compare a game to snuff movies or child porn is going a little far - surely what is happening to computer games at the moment is comparable to what happened to the "video nastys" during the 70's ? Its not acceptable in my opinion

No one really knows what the long terms effects of video games on "fragile" people are really and to answer your question the difference between snuff/videos etc and games is the interaction. You're a part of it in a video game and when im blasting my way through the battle of the bulge of racing through rush hour at 200mph its still basically a part of me indulging in the fantasy. It's inevitable.........the problem is we don't compensate for a few hundred people, we have to think in terms of millions or billions and not everyone is going to react well to a game where the specific aim is to murder someone in the worst way possible

I played the first one, but it got too repetitive.

The only motivation for finishing it was to see the outcome/ the plot. Or if you met 'The Director'.

Can someone give me a spoiler, please, and let me know the plot development of the game and the ending?

Thanks.

Then Alice...Brace yourself for GTA 4. You mustve been living in a cave to not know of its impending release soon

The hard decision is whether to get a PS3 for GTA4 or not, i bought a PS2 just to play GTA3.........my flatmate has an XBOX360, but ill want to be playing it a lot so might be a little rude............any thoughts anyone on how much a PS3 will cost in October time? Much of decrement?