No such happy ending to this story.
Baiji Dolphin
Re: Baiji Dolphin
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
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diplodocus
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that they do, but this is the first documented case in living memory of mankind causing the extinction of a higher life form by our own greed and negligence.
not a great day in the history of our species
not a great day in the history of our species
we are Leeds.... , and we can still beat the mighty Chester
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diplodocus wrote:
> this is the first documented case in living memory of mankind causing the extinction of a higher life form by our own greed and negligence.
'Higher' is a loaded term. So the thylacine [marsupial mammal, R.I.P 1930]
wasn't 'higher'? Or the passenger-pigeon [R.I.P 1914]? The dodo [R.I.P
late 17th c.]? Steller's Sea-cow [pinniped mammal, discovered 1741, R.I.P
1768 !!!]? There are also many poorly-known birds and mammals in the
world's rain-forests whose survival-status may never be established but
may be presumed to be extinct simply because their habitat no longer
exists.
> not a great day in the history of our species
We've been pretty poor custodians of this planet.
> this is the first documented case in living memory of mankind causing the extinction of a higher life form by our own greed and negligence.
'Higher' is a loaded term. So the thylacine [marsupial mammal, R.I.P 1930]
wasn't 'higher'? Or the passenger-pigeon [R.I.P 1914]? The dodo [R.I.P
late 17th c.]? Steller's Sea-cow [pinniped mammal, discovered 1741, R.I.P
1768 !!!]? There are also many poorly-known birds and mammals in the
world's rain-forests whose survival-status may never be established but
may be presumed to be extinct simply because their habitat no longer
exists.
> not a great day in the history of our species
We've been pretty poor custodians of this planet.
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
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diplodocus
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last time i looked i wasn't around in the 1930's or before!
I was talking from my perspective, and if the earliest you can go back is 1930, that's a pretty long run for a major extinction
of course there will be other species going under in remote rainforests etc, but as you say, their status may never be proven because of that fact.
The difference with this one is that it is a well documented case, which in extinction terms for a large mammal is pretty dam rare
I was talking from my perspective, and if the earliest you can go back is 1930, that's a pretty long run for a major extinction
of course there will be other species going under in remote rainforests etc, but as you say, their status may never be proven because of that fact.
The difference with this one is that it is a well documented case, which in extinction terms for a large mammal is pretty dam rare
we are Leeds.... , and we can still beat the mighty Chester
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diplodocus
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so sorry I missed the 'thylacine' and the passenger pigeon, but I don't know if they were caused by mankinds activities
I'm sure if you asked most people to name a major extinction in living memory they wouldn't come up with those without a google search
not sure why you felt the need to pick apart a post which was making a valid point, did you have anything constructive to add or did you just feel the need to be pedantic
if you want to play that game you should proof read your own posts for typos, especially when you have offered to proof read mad mikes book!
I'm sure if you asked most people to name a major extinction in living memory they wouldn't come up with those without a google search
not sure why you felt the need to pick apart a post which was making a valid point, did you have anything constructive to add or did you just feel the need to be pedantic
if you want to play that game you should proof read your own posts for typos, especially when you have offered to proof read mad mikes book!
we are Leeds.... , and we can still beat the mighty Chester
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The other point I should have mentioned is that the number of species
teetering on the brink is now MUCH higher- ALL the large cetaceans, many
big cats, the polar bear, several seals, Asian rhinos [subspecies of all of
which except the p.b. HAVE gone extinct in the last 30 years- I excluded
these in the above as I didn't want to be accused of hair-splitting].
I also excluded those mammalian species [mainly antelopes, for some
reason] that are extinct in the wild and only survive through the agency
of zoos.
teetering on the brink is now MUCH higher- ALL the large cetaceans, many
big cats, the polar bear, several seals, Asian rhinos [subspecies of all of
which except the p.b. HAVE gone extinct in the last 30 years- I excluded
these in the above as I didn't want to be accused of hair-splitting].
I also excluded those mammalian species [mainly antelopes, for some
reason] that are extinct in the wild and only survive through the agency
of zoos.
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
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Deuce Bigolo
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Re: Baiji Dolphin
Given the way that the japanese fishermen kill dolphins ad nauseum I wouldn't hold out much hope unless they went North or east