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warren zevon rip wrote:

> Trumpton wrote:
>
> > I watched a programme on CH4 the other day called 'Unreported
> > World'. They covered this story about black South Africans
> > living in worse poverty than under apartheid. Black local
> > leaders, many who experienced aparthied themselves, admitted
> > that they had never seen such bad conditions than are
> happening
> > in their local communities today.
>
> Anecdotal! Figures, Trumpty, figures!

No - fact. The reporter in this programme did produce figures - in verbal form - which I can't exactly recall. Suggestion; go to the CH4 website and look for the link/page to 'Unreported World'.
>
> > Mbeki is following the policy which was set up by Mandela,
> ie,
> > denial of a problem of HIV/Aids.
>
> Mandela was indeed slower to react than he should have been,
> but he is open about AIDS now. Mbeki isn't.

Correct.

warren zevon rip wrote:

> I still think getting rid of apartheid was a guid thing.

Or even a 'good' thing. LOL.

THAT other thread has been deleted.

warren zevon rip wrote:
>
> I know, I know. A guid thing.

Mmmm, I may use that as my sig?

warren zevon rip wrote:

> Trumpton wrote:
>
> > warren zevon rip wrote:
> > >
> > > I know, I know. A guid thing.
> >
> > Mmmm, I may use that as my sig?
>
> Of course.

So, I've got your permission to use it?