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A few views on all the films(with links) can be read here



ID was good I think it was about 1995, four policemen go undercover to infiltrate football holliganism, however one of them gradually becomes one. It might seem unlikely but paradoxicaly the police force and football holliganism have striking similarities, both are masculine dominated cultures, violence is a way of life for them and they both wage impossible wars

Ace, you got a Rock Against Racism album with a live version of 'White Man In Hammersmith Palais' ? That's about the most obscure Clash thing I have.

Good one to have Jonone. I have the whole concert of the gig from Victoria park, Hackney in 1978 both bootleg and from Topper Headon's personal collection of soundboard source

Why on earth do people watch these shite films. Wannabe cockney actors playing wannabe cockney hardmen. I was around when the hoolies were at there peak and without exception, every bit of hooliganism I saw by the so called London 'firms' entailed about 20-30 of them picking on a couple of guys walking down the road minding their own business - these so called 'hard men' ran whenever the numbers were about equal. Why attempt to glamourise these fuckers - they were fat sad bastards who couldn't get a girlfriend, couldn't hold their drink, couldn't play footballand couldn't hold down a job and couldn't fight unless they were backed up by about 30 of their mates - arseholes the lot of them. That's why they've got an arsehole like Danny fucking Dyer in these films - to add a little reality to the proceedings - I don't think he can fuck or fight, play football or hold his drink either. Cockney Wanker.
It really shows up the British Film industry for what it is

Get yer arse down the Kings Road on any given saturday when Chelsea are playing and spout that rant off.......and see if you come back to report it here.

Aye, the Chelsea rent boys will av im......lol.

You know the score, eh Sam !wink!

Ace, whilst on the subject of hooligans, apart from your beloved Chelsea and me with Man U. Who would you say has the hardest crew nowdays.

Well the term 'good ole tear up' means something different down in Fulham doesn't it? More to do with a torn sphincter than anything else.....lol!

Us northern boys put 5 pairs of pants on when we go down there !wink!

Only kidding Ace, only kidding!

Hardest Crew these days? Hmmmm, tough one. Millwall still send shudders around visiting fans. Cardiff fancy themselves a bit, as do Leeds. Premiership wise? Ooooh, I really don't know. Obviously, the Chelsea HeadHunters are legendary as are many little fighting firms at most clubs. Liverpool have some nutters that travel to Europe and give the English a bad name with their lunatic behaviour.
Overall, I'd say Juventus or Galertasseray in Europe (Home) would give 'our lads' a torrid time.

Good question !thumbsup!