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Harriet Harman: what can you say excepr she's a right old minger.

DavidS wrote:


> This is yet another example of New Labour trying to push
> through ill thought out legislation which catches everyone, not
> just those it is intended to. It will end up like the hunting
> ban, which upset thousands yet did nothing to improve animal
> welfare. No doubt it will please the middle class handwringers
> who seemed to be the only people the political parties want to
> satisfy now.

NO its not another example of New Labour doing anything so please get your facts right David it's Harriet Harmon's opinion of what she thinks should be done!!

When and IF she puts a motion for it to become law it will be thrown out.

No doubt their will be the usual New Labour blah blahs on here to support you but the simple reality is that New Labour carried out the Paying the Price consultation on prostitution and the findings of the report clearly indicated Ms Harmon's opinion isn't a view shared.

Gosh I didn't realise that its election day for Parliament.
Silly old me thought it was council elections.

Mart

randyandy wrote:

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Trouble is Andy, ALL restrictive legislation starts out as some politician's idea about "what they think should be done".

And as for it getting thrown out if it were tabled - I'm not so sure, given NuLabour's track record in banning things that the moral minority find "offensive" and doing their level best to interfere in people's lives (and lifestyles) because they believe that "nanny knows best".

- Eric

Flat_Eric wrote:

> randyandy wrote:
>
> And as for it getting thrown out if it were tabled - I'm not so
> sure, given NuLabour's track record in banning things that the
> moral minority find "offensive" and doing their level best to
> interfere in people's lives (and lifestyles) because they
> believe that "nanny knows best".
>


Let me put it another way Eric.

As a labour supporter who actually took part in the review I can tell you it will not become law!

You're saying with conviction that it will not become law. Does that mean that if it is still being presented as possible legislation this is only happening for the PR value ?

Jonone wrote:

> You're saying with conviction that it will not become law. Does
> that mean that if it is still being presented as possible
> legislation this is only happening for the PR value ?

Ms Harmon's PR yes.

The entire principal of the consultation was valid and for want of a better phrase for a good cause.

Dealing with trafficking etc but the problem is that Ms Harmon and a few others think its all the same thing which it isn't.

Ms Harmon has been told this repeatedly but for some reason, known only to her, she still rants about it whenever she is given the chance.

In a way I suppose it could be seen as a good thing in terms of sticking to what she believes in but as far as most are concerned she is wrong.

randyandy wrote:

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Like many politicians, "Mzzz" Harman doesn't live in the real world.

She's also a self-procalimed arch-feminist with a clear, confessed anti-male (especially anti-white male) agenda - and yet here she is a leading and influential member of the current government.

I've checked up Andy, and that consultation you mention was conducted way back in 2004 - and yet she's still banging on about outlawing all forms of paid sex.

And history shows that if people like her with a bee in their bonnet bang on about it long enough and loudly enough, eventually they get their way (all-female shortlists and other forms of "affirmative action" bollocks, banning corporal punishment in schools, banning parents from smacking their own kids, banning smoking in public, banning hunting, ban .. ban .. ban .. clampdown .. clampdown .. clampdown). It may take years, but they get there in the end.

And given the influence of the "wimmin's movement" with NuLabour, I'd be very surprised if this issue goes away - consultation or no consultation.

- Eric

All I can repeat Eric is what I've already said.

Just to clarify again there is more chance of seeing rocking horse shit than Ms Harmon getting her way on this.