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Re: Elderly Care

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:17 pm
by Sam Slater
Aye, I'll concede you never said they 'created' the problem (although I never accused you of that specifically anyway, did I?).

I was making the point, though, that those 'slimey fuckers' -as you call them- are left with a problem past 'slimier fuckers' chose to ignore because the answers weren't 'vote-catchers'.

Regardless, the problem is becoming a bigger concern year after year and it's becoming harder to ignore.


Re: Elderly Care

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:33 pm
by Officer Dibble
"I'd like to see Officer Dibs wipe up shit, piss and vomit, wash a 90 year old mans bollocks/arse-crack/foreskin, continually deal with death, be scolded by tea/coffee, rushed for your tetanus because you've been bitten (again) and be considered immaculate in manner 12 hour shift after 12 hour shift, year after year."

That's not my style and I've never claimed that it was. I'm not really the patient sympathetic type. However, I do expect that those who take on the mantle of carers are nice, kind, patient, sympathetic, type people. I feel those qualities are basic minimum requirement for the job. If people in those types of jobs do not possess those qualities then they have no business being there. They will only end up being bored, miserable, irritable and short tempered. Not the kind of people one relishes the thought of being in charge of our helpless relatives care - or even our care at a later date.






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Re: Elderly Care

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:38 pm
by Sam Slater
Do I want to pay more taxes? No.

Do I want to look after them? No.

I do understand, though, that I may have top pay more taxes, and retire later in life than my dad, to pay for my care in the future.

In fact, like my nan expressed before she died three years ago: I'd prefer to die at 75 with all my mental faculties, being able to bathe myself, and be the ability to have normal bowel movements, rather than live an extra 20 years with someone having to feed/bathe and clothe me, along with shitting/pissing in a bag that's taped to my side.

My nan died with her mind and pride still intact thankfully.

There's something in what the Spartans said to people scared of the battle ahead because they didn't want to die. The obvious retort being "How else would you rather die?"

They have a point.


Re: Elderly Care

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:39 am
by Officer Dibble
You would have thought that caring for the elderly was an issue that NuLabour would have at the top of their agenda - they being nice socialist caring sharing types and all that. So, I'm a bit perplexed to see them shying away from it - sweeping it under the carpet, washing their hands.... Well, hey, human nature and behavior being what it is, maybe I'm not to surprised. You see socialists on the whole aren?t any nicer or more caring than anyone else. Their socialism and social concern is just a fashionable badge that allows them to feel comfortable with their middleclass peers and affords them a cosy glow in believing they?re morally superior to everyone else. Imagine going to a diner party in Isligton with all the luvies and opining that ?Hey, we aught to send the fuckers back? or ?String the fuckers up!? You just couldn?t do it, could you? Not if you wanted to remain a part of the ?luvie set?. You would have to adopt their fashionable (pretentious) values, their veneer of social concern. Virginia Wolfe, a posh socialist writer and screaming snob, once famously said words to the effect ?Darling, one simply has to be a socialist or one would never get invited to the best dinner parties?.






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Re: Elderly Care

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:00 am
by Officer Dibble
?all care companies and old peoples homes are required by law to only employ those with U.k citizienship?

Yes, I'm fully aware that asylum seekers cannot legally be employed in care homes. I simply injected the term ?asylum seekers? to give the post a little more emotional spice. Hey, I can't go posting material that's too bland or banal - I have a reputation to maintain!

However, having said that, there is little doubt that illegals and asylum seekers are working in care homes right now ? like in this instance




But be that as it may, what I want to know is what you propose to do about the looming crises in the care of the elderly? How are we to deal with it? How do we finance it? Where are we to find the requisite numbers of people of the appropriate caring caliber? Are you worried about what the future holds for both yourself and your relatives?







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