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deannadoes wrote:

> I watched that as well, I thought it was excellent.
> It was presented very well and got public opinion across.
> The WI taking this issue to task totaly amazed me, but again
> there is a very big problem with legalising brothels etc, that
> is
> tge government.

Actually dennadoes I think you'll find that the 'big problem' are the people who don't want the brothels, workers or punters in their community.

I took part in the Prostitution Review years ago done by 'the Government' along with lots of others for the same reasons which Harmony gives plus I think the revenue could, if manged correctly, be significant.

Biggest pain in the arse is Harriot Harmon but her opinions are at the moment largely ignored but that is sadly changing especially by Green Dave's Tories.

Like most things there is a lot of ignorance by both sides not just of the benefits but also the negatives.

You only have to look abroad to see the girls apparently past their sell by date to see some of the consequences of legalized / tolerated brothels but I still think, if manged correctly, the benefits are stronger than the negatives.

I suggest you read the review before making any more judgments on who wants what.

Cant see it being legal somehow not like Denmark etc.sandie wrote:

> harmonyhex wrote:
>
> for girls who choose to sell sex?
> >
> > I saw in the paper how it is legal to sell sex, but its the
> > soliciting and the pimping thats the illegal part so if
> > brothels could be made legal with proper rule enforcement
> etc.
> > then its got to be a step in the right direction
> >
> >
>
> Can some one help me understand this please. Ive always known
> the above but having just read it in black and white in
> harmonys post its just struk me as a contradiction surely?
> How can prostitution be legalised in this country if its not
> illegal?
>
> Unless they mean to legalise the buying of sex???!!!
>
>

In case you don't want to trawl through all of the excellent and informative article jacqes posted the link to further up. This is the bit Harmony was referring to. I find the last bit quite interesting, the bit about living with a prostitute.

Prostitution
BEING A PROSTITUTE is legal - both hetero and gay, so long as he/she is 18 or over. The problem for prostitutes is that most things they need to do to earn a living are illegal, ie:-
? explicitly advertising their services - although newspapers now happily take "massage" adverts and many prostitutes now advertise on the Internet.
? soliciting in the street - which can mean as little as walking along with a condom in your handbag - is outlawed by the Street Offences Act 1959. Street walkers can also be prosecuted under the Vagrancy Act 1824. Men can be prosecuted for "importuning", whereas women cannot (Sexual Offences Act 2003).
? hanging out in the street - some street workers are being prosecuted for public order offences and receive ASBOs - Anti Social Behaviour Orders. Local authorities use ASBOs out of context to ban prostitutes from working in their area. There is also the possibility of prosecution for "outraging public decency" (Common Law). This has been used against "back-ally" sex workers including those who give quick hand jobs.
? cause alarm, distress or harassment - which could be from just "being a prostitute" - under the Public Order Act 1986.
? The Licensing Act 1964 prohibits landlords serving a prostitute and the Town Police Clause Act of 1847 criminalises selling refreshments to sex workers sitting together. The worry about the latter supposedly defunct Act is that it could criminalise health workers and volunteers who run drop-in centres.
? prostitutes paying men to help them (although you may be allowed to employ a female "maid"). The Sexual Offences Acts 1956 and 2003 criminalise men for living off immoral earnings, and men and women for "controlling prostitutes".
? working together in a flat, in a brothel, massage parlour or for an agency is illegal under the Disorderly Houses Act 1751 and the Sexual Offences Acts. It is normally tolerated in practice, so long as there are no drugs or underage people involved, and the neighbours have not complained.
? renting a flat is often difficult, as standard leases forbid the premeses to be used for "immoral purposes" and this means that a prostitute risks having her tenancy terminated.
? as they are providing a service, prostitutes should strictly speaking charge VAT if their earnings are over and above the relevant limit. But clients don't want to be identified, let alone be handed a VAT invoice. Prostitutes fear the Inland Revenue making extortionate income tax assessments (eg the Lindi St Clair case). As prostitution iteself is lawful, the income is taxable. Most sex workers thus make the choice to either (a) work undercover, stating another profession on their tax form. The Inland Revenue really don't care what you call yourself, so long as you pay your tax. or (b) work outside the tax system, in the black economy. To avoid suspicion and keep their National Insurance up-to-date, many sign on at the Job Centre for six months after which Jobseekers Allowance ends.
? sex workers have few legal rights and little protection from the law. They find it very difficult to get police protection or to take a case to court against a violent client for assault and there are many violent clients. Technically, if a client refuses to pay, that is rape because consent was a condition of payment. Juries, however, rarely convict a man of raping a prostitute.

LIVING WITH A PROSTITUTE
For men, this can be interpreted as living off immoral earnings, and illegal under the Sexual Offences Acts 1965 and 2003, even if you are her son or boyfriend. Two female prostitutes in the same building constitutes a brothel and each (and the landlord) are liable to prosecution.