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"In our country, at least, Davidski, 1966 is not in the 70s and 80s - as my post made clear I was referring to. Perhaps you are still using the Julian calendar in Belarus, but even that is only 14 days behind ours, not 4 years!"

You are very slow on the uptake this evening, Herr Nipperstein. Let me explain your argument to you, more simply. You argue that English players have been improved since the influx of foreign players from around the world as a result of the Premier League starting in 1992, fuelled by enormous amounts of dosh (money to you) from Sky.

This argument, if correct, should clearly also apply to the 60's. Got it, Nipperstein? However it does not, does it? Quarter final place in 1962, won the Cup in 1966.

"The England team has qualified for every major tournament since foreign players became the norm in Britain. It has also got to various quarter and semi-finals. This was not the case in the 1970s & 80s, when even Scotland easily out-qualified England for the world cup. "

Very poor, young Nipperstein. 1970 Qtr finals, 82 Phase 2, 86 Qtr finals, 90 semi finals. Then, after the huge influx of money into the Premier League resulted in many overseas players, 1994 England did not qualify and in 1998 only made the last 16.

I also seem to remember, young Nippy, a Celtic team that won the European Cup with a purely Scottish born side. And Manchester United with Bobby Charlton did pretty well in European competition without a huge number of foreign players.

"Yes, ban those illegals. Keep Britain indigenous. As Sam point out, lovers of football than racial purity will watch anyone that is good at football."

Now you are foaming at the mouth. A balance is not a ban. There needs to be an agreed limit on the number of foreign born players in Premier League sides. That number should be greater than 0. Therefore, no ban is required.

I suspect your football knowledge is based purely on watching Tanzanian Tigers v. Gold Coast Diggers. However, I praise you for trying to integrate on this forum with some football chat.

Now, run along, switch on Five Live (its a radio station that has a lot of football on it) and learn the words to Blue Moon.

Cheerio young Nipperstein

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"This thread is about the Big Match/1970s. My argument: 1970s and 1980s. 1966 - irrelevantski. If you want to start a new thread about a different decade please do. I am sure it will be very interesting to your family back home in Belarus."

All the immigration shtick in your post is just so much hot air to cover the fact that you struggle to think clearly. And then you don't answer my point that your view about foreign players improving English players' performance in the World Cup doesn't stand up against the facts.

I'm beginning to think you must be Reggie Perrin. You share that inability to think clearly and the fetish about having to have the last post in a thread.

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It really was proper football back then I must admit. Proper tackling like what I used to do too !

Did you get as many snapped legs in the 60s and 70s compared to now? I think the tackles these days aren't as reckless but lets remember that the players making them are running much faster, stronger and powerful these days.

I think that if I had to take a tackle from Bobby Moore or Rio Ferdinand, I'd know who'd hit hardest. Would a Geoff Hurst or Jimmy Greaves out-muscle a Wayne Rooney or Emile Heskey?

I don't think a team from the 60s or 70s would last out in the modern game and we look back through rose-tinted glasses.

All the talk of football in the UK before the arrivals from "abroad".

In the 60s and 70s most of the players were called Smith, Jones, Sidebottom and so on.

There is a player playing for Southampton today called:

Papa Waigo N'Diaye

How times change

My favourite player name is Wolfgang Wolf who played in the Bundesliga for Kaiserslautern for 12 seasons, before retiring to become a coach with Stuttgart. He later became the coach of Wolfsburg. It was a sad day for football when 5 years later Wolfgang Wolf left Wolfsburg for Nurnberg.