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Ned wrote:

> An often overlooked aspect of patriotism/nationalism is that
> often, the most patriotic people you could wish to meet are
> first generation migrants, particularly Indians, who feel
> nothing but love for this country and are proud to call
> themselves British.
(snip)

An interesting point Ned. In Australia - a country built on immigration - I find many Italians, Greeks, Chinese, British, Vietnamese, South Africans and Indians contribute so much to this country's assets it's almost embarrassing.

The only group who seem to be a problem are the Muslim based new arrivals from the middle east. They happily tell me that we will soon become a Muslim country whether we want it or not. They can fuck off as far as I'm concerned.

Deano! wrote:


> The only group who seem to be a problem are the Muslim based
> new arrivals from the middle east. They happily tell me that we
> will soon become a Muslim country whether we want it or not.
> They can fuck off as far as I'm concerned.

You and the UK will become hardline Islamic states given the current level of capitulation to "those who must never be critisised for anything ever".

Thats the only way things can go until people pull their heads out of their arses and address the problem.

Why the hell shouldnt the govt try to put a stop to facist organisations?

How can you claim to be democratic if you try to stop fascist organisations?

Where does one draw the line between what they perceive is good and bad?

Do we ban islam in the UK because people think it is promoting terrorist activities.

How can we promote freedom of speech if we silence those who object to foreigners in their country?

Thats the price of freedom

Freedom of speech as long as you`re saying what I want you to.
People`ve got the right to be stupid, ignorant and racist and when you try to force multiculturism down peoples throats, as Nu Labour have then all you do is make things worse and build up more resentment and hate.
You know, like how I almost went bankrupt because I`m self employed and had to get licensed to clean windows but a Turkish guy got it paid for him because he`s an immigrant. White guilt retards causes almost as much trouble as the white power ones.

At least now if someone supports the BNP then you know they`re a extremist bigot but imagine if they gain some sort of legitimacy.

you dont have to be a rocket scientist to see that the BNP didnt do this by choice they just had it forced on them.However i cant wait to see the first picture of the Sikh grandfather in his turban holding a Union Jack at a BNP do and some muggy little white UAF cunt running up to him screaming Narrrzeee,Narrrzzzeeee,Racist,Racist.looking a bit deeper into it though it only strengthens the BNP,s hand as now it can genuinly claim to be non racist and to have a multicultural membership also it will further appeal to disenfranchised white voters by citing this as an example of white people not even being allowed to choose who they associate with in their own country without having more of this P.C multicultural shit forced upon them whilst ethnics are allowed to have exclusive organizations for their own benefit and advancement.Either way you look at it its a win/win situation for the BNP.the BNP is a funny old organization,left to their own devices they shoot themselves in the foot every time but every stunt the establishment tries to pull on them ends up with them geting stronger

They shouldn't stop them through underhand tactics, they should defeat them through the normal ways that any political party would if it wants less people to vote for that other party. It is the fault of the Labour Party particularly, but also the previous Tory Government, that people, through total despair, are voting BNP in large numbers. I've said before that I would never vote for them because of their Holocuast denial and their 'lets kick out the blacks' policies of the 1980s and 1990s. They say they've moved on from those views now, I'm not so sure, therefore I would not vote for them. I imagine the one million who do either beleive the BNP has moved on from those views, are not aware the BNP ever felt that way (unlikely), or may well support those views. I am of the view that only a small amount of BNP voters are Holocaust deniers and 'lets kick out the blacks' kind of people. In fact, Nothing British About The BNP (who are an anti-BNP group) said the same thing about the likely opinions and feelings of many BNP supporters.

Davey, I agree.

That's a tricky one. If she had British grandparents and she is migrating to Britain then she is basically reverting to native. Would you regard an Irish American from Boston moving to Ireland or a Greek Australian from Melbourne settling in Greece as becoming an 'immigrant' when they move? Not really. It is one extra person in that land but they are going to where their family is from.

oej, I agree that the token ethnic member of the BNP going on TV will cause mega problems for those trying to bring the BNP down. All the BNP leadership will have to do is say 'we have a Sikh member who agrees with us and supports our policies' (or black, Japanese, or whatever) then the critics will have little to say back.

You mention how bad it will be if the BNP ever got into power. Yes, it would be bad. That is very unlikely to happen though as there are about 650 seats in the House of Commons and the BNP don't even have ONE! They may win Barking & Dagenham this year but that will still be only one seat out of 650. They have a long long way to go before they could even become the third party, never mind become the Government.