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Re: Wayne Bridge
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:48 pm
by Jonone
It's rather more than not being able to stand the sight of someone. Engage your emotions and think about betrayal. Your talk of professionalism is a robot's charter. These are human beings with emotions.
Re: Dace
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:53 pm
by Sam Slater
[quote]What about playing for his country and thinking about something other than himself?[/quote]
Thinking of himself? He splits up from the mother of his child, his friend and team mate starts banging her as soon as you're back's turned and then to top it off you have to read all about it in the papers.
I think he's entitled to 'think about himself' and do what's best for himself. It's certain is girlfriend and mate didn't have his best interests at the forefront of their minds, that's for sure.
Re: Wayne Bridge
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:56 pm
by Sam Slater
I'm sorry, I though we were talking about human beings who, despite being well paid and pandered to, have human emotions and may feel hurt/distraught/angry/embarrassed about what's happened. Are you saying well paid footballers shouldn't feel emotions us mortals should feel?
Re: Wayne Bridge
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:11 pm
by Ned
Not at all. If he went and we were shit and got knocked out, there'd be all kinds of stuff about distractions in the press. Who would, of course, be the very people whipping it all up in the same way they were doing this weekend.
He's right not to go. Anything that takes the players' minds off the job at hand is a bad thing. Why turn it into any more of a media circus than it needs to be?
Like it or not, that squad will split into camps if he goes. Terry has a lot of mates in the squad (Bridge was his best friend at Chelsea by the way) and having Bridge there will cause discomfort at the very least.
Re: Wayne Bridge
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:01 pm
by The Last Word
Do bear in mind we maybe wouldn't have heard much of this if Terry's super-injuction hadn't been overruled:
Like many I wish they'd sort it out like men in private, but perhaps there's too much difference between them for that. It looks as if for Bridge there are maybe more important things in life than football. But for Terry, maybe nothing's more important than money.
Re: Dace
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:37 pm
by David Johnson
Sam,
He's been asked to be in the same football squad, with 20 odd other players and umpteen staff.
He's not being asked to go around for an intimate meal for two with John Terry. Or go off on a foursome with Terry and his missus to a holiday resort.
I still think all the kudos and respect will be down to Bridge if he agrees to play in the England setup. Much more so than he doesn't.
As always you are entitled to your view.
D
Re: Wayne Bridge
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:43 pm
by David Johnson
Sam
"Are you saying well paid footballers shouldn't feel emotions us mortals should feel?"
Obviously not...
Just as people who work with individuals who they regard as total contemptible arseholes don't necessarily decide to give in to these arseholes by victimising themselves i.e. making themselves redundant.
Its Terry who appears to be in the wrong here, not Bridge in terms of what has occurred. Why should Bridge suffer by missing out the opportunity of a lifetime?
I hope he reconsiders.
D
My last post in this thread
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:53 pm
by David Johnson
"Engage your emotions and think about betrayal. Your talk of professionalism is a robot's charter. These are human beings with emotions."
This is complete and utter bullshit.
First as amusing as a lecture from you on engaging my emotions may be, I will prefer to ignore it, thanks.
Second, I can clearly see how Bridge views this as a betrayal.
Third this is about how someone deals with what they view as a betrayal. They can either add to the harm by harming themselves e.g. giving up their England role or think "I am not going to be the victim here, because I have not done anything wrong". I am suggesting the latter because I think it will prevent Bridge from being in a "if only" situation later in life and I think it would put out a powerful message to all those who feel they are hard done by in certain situations in life.
As I have mentioned elsewhere many, many people in society find themselves working with individuals who they despise for whatever reasons. They decide not to give in to these shmucks by hurting themselves.
And as for "these are human beings with emotions". Thanks for that. Very insightful!
D
Re: Wayne Bridge
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:23 pm
by Deuce Bigolo
Would be interesting to know how the rest of the squad regard Terry even after his demotion from the captaincy
You'd like to think the air has been cleared but i somehow doubt it
Why I dont agree with Bridge shooting himself in the foot,better that than a
ridiculous walk out when in camp
ala Roy Keane(ireand) 2002