"Who do you think you are kidding Mr Hitler?"
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frankthring
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Re: "Who do you think you are kidding Mr Hitler?"
Robches hits the nail on the head, but I find it fascinating that an old
TV song - itself a pastiche of WWII songs - should so worry Max that
it might upset German drinkers (I assume).
Football is a time - whether he likes it or not - for nationalist sentiment
to become focused on sport. Our country fought the 2 greatest wars
in its history with many millions dead (and destroyed itself economically
as a world power) fighting Germany for a tenth of the last century !
So if the lads in the bar start chanting nationlist rhetoric - and it is a
pretty harmless old song - if I had been a German that night I might
have realised that in the British national psyche it will be at least 50
more years before Mr Hitler`s ghost is laid to rest (and remember with
shame what horrors my country perpetrated in the name of the Greater
German Volk).
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max_tranmere
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Re: "Who do you think you are kidding Mr Hitler?"
I'm all for the singing of Nationalist songs, but I think a reference to Hitler is not necessary. There is a take off of that song that goes "Who do you think you are kidding Mr Klinsman" that I think would have been ok. I dont have this view because there may have been German drinkers in the bar, I just think we have moved on from the days when we had problems with Germany and a direct reference to all this - on a night when England is just playing football - is not the thing to be doing. Its like that "Ten German Bombers" song that some of our fans sing when they go to Europe - people have always said that is out of order and I agree.
Re: "Who do you think you are kidding Mr Hitler?"
Of course.
I served for 6 years in Germany and gained a healthy dislike of the Germans, not the country. A visit to Bergen Belsen clarifies the mind. Whatever the deniers may say, the Holocaust happened and we should never forget that it did and what it entailed. In Germany there are no extant concentration camps as they were. But, in Poland near the Georgian border there is a camp at Majdenak and is still as it was on the day that the Russian Army liberated it complete with gas chamber and the crematoria. A visit there is even more sobering. I will never forget my visit there and I can only imagine the suffering that went on.
I served for 6 years in Germany and gained a healthy dislike of the Germans, not the country. A visit to Bergen Belsen clarifies the mind. Whatever the deniers may say, the Holocaust happened and we should never forget that it did and what it entailed. In Germany there are no extant concentration camps as they were. But, in Poland near the Georgian border there is a camp at Majdenak and is still as it was on the day that the Russian Army liberated it complete with gas chamber and the crematoria. A visit there is even more sobering. I will never forget my visit there and I can only imagine the suffering that went on.
RoddersUK
Re: "Who do you think you are kidding Mr Hitler?"
The songs might be a bit naughty, but its a refreshing change from the old football hooliganism back in the 80's. In a few years time, they might just pull faces and blow raspberries.
Phwooorr...look at her....CRASH