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				Re: IDS says celebrity culture is...
				Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:43 am
				by wayne
				Thanks 6.
			 
			
					
				Re: IDS says celebrity culture is...
				Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:11 am
				by spider
				Isn't IDS "the Quiet Man"?
I wish he'd shut the F**K=up!
			 
			
					
				Re: IDS says celebrity culture is...
				Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:07 am
				by planeterotica
				Is this the answer or is it going a bit to far?
			 
			
					
				Re: IDS says celebrity culture is...
				Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:20 am
				by andy at handiwork
				If the early use of pepper spray and Tazers are anything to go by, you can be sure the police will be trying the laser out on OAPs and the disabled first.
			 
			
					
				Re: IDS says celebrity culture is...
				Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:01 am
				by frankthring
				
   If Wayne has a bee in his bonnet about the Thatcher years its hard to
   blame him (I loathed her and she stood for so much I moved abroad),
   while David and Jim both make good points. The trouble is, Wayne, its
   hard to say when the rot set in.....in pure historical terms you are out by
   20 years I would say; the Swinging Sixties with the ascent of everyman,
   their hard-boiled cynicism about traditional values and institutions, their
   attack on long held moral values really rammed the decay home.  Thatcher
   and her minions  just told us that a greedy, selfish, cynical and amoral     
   society was OK. From the Sixties onwards every value that made Britain
   great was under attack and the Old Girl has never been the same.
			 
			
					
				Re: IDS says celebrity culture is...
				Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:31 pm
				by wayne
				But the sixties wasnt only unlike the thatcher years fuck everyone over and money is the only thing in life.