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"Yes the aftermath was a vile cover up "

"It has nothing to do with football and all to do with Scouser's getting excited by seeing their arch rivals, aka The Police, in the dock."

Arginald Valleywater wrote:

> What exactly do the 96ers actually want? Nobody got up that
> tragic day and thought of killing anyone. The event was a
> tragedy. Yes the aftermath was a vile cover up but the inquest
> should be about the deaths and nothing else.

What do they want? MONEY

It is all about money, what they can claim once they have someone to carry the can.

When you lose someone, the last thing you would want is to be constantly reminded of the awful incident that caused that loss and to have it constantly plastered all over the news, never allowed to move on with your lives. What has happened here though, is that a few people smelled pound notes and others all followed like sheep.

What will the families of the 96 do if the current investigation/enquiry doesn't tell them EXACTLY what they want to hear - namely that Liverpool fans were totally innocent and the Police were incompetent on the day, and uncaring and prone to cover things up subsequently? I am sure they will demand another enquiry. I feel very sorry for the families, how could anyone not, and I've stood in front of the Hillsborough memorial at Anfield. I remember walking round the whole perimeter until I found it, I discovered it in that little back steet behind the complex.

People on here who claim to know a lot about this, please answer this question: could the Liverpool fans on the day have been even SLIGHTLY responsible for what happened? Could ticketless drunken and badly behaved Liverpool fans been even 5% responsible - and the Police be 95% responsible)? Four years earlier, when the Heysel stadium disaster occurred, Liverpool fans were blamed for what happened. 39 people died and 600 were injured and I was told by someone once that the Liverpool Echo newspaper later ran a "We're Sorry" headline and story about how Liverpool fans had caused the deaths. The behaviour of Liverpool fans that day at Heysel not only killed people but got English clubs banned from Europe for years.

In 1985 the conduct of Liverpool fans at Heysel proved that some of them were violent trouble makers. Were the Liverppol fans TOTALLY devoid of blame for anything to do with the terrible tradegy at Hillsborough in 1989?

You are funnier when you talk about religion.

[quote]What do they want? MONEY[/quote]

We still talking about the church?

And to repeat my point (which you haven't answered): What good will it do? Surely it is worse to find out that you loved ones could have been saved?

It's the lawyers wot get the riches... unless the 96's families are thinking of the compo ? surely not?

Aha Raymond has won the quiz!! Compo for the 96!!

Is it true that Liverpool are changing their name to "boring us all shitless about an event that didn't affect 99.99999% of football fans but they all expect us to get upset about something they were partially to blame for FC?"
FOR FUCK'S SAKE GET SOME COUNSELLING AND GET ON WITH YOUR LIVES.

max_tranmere wrote:

> Could
> ticketless drunken and badly behaved Liverpool fans been even
> 5% responsible


No evidence has ever been found that there were any ticketless fans present. The electronic monitoring system of entry to the stadium showed that the total number of people who entered the Leppings Lane end was below the official capacity of that part of the stadium. Tickets for the Leppings Lane end had been on sale from Anfield the day before the match and eye witness accounts reported that tickets were available at Hillsborough on the day.

JamesW wrote:



> No evidence has ever been found that there were any ticketless fans present.




That must be the first ever incident of no ticketless Liverpool fans at a major (ie top of the league clash, semi final or final) game whatsoever!

Probably more so than any other English club, Liverpool fans without tickets journey far and wide to attend major games on the off chance... that's on the off chance of being able to snatch tickets out of childrens' hands (as happened in Istanbul in 2005) or the off-chance of using forgeries to get into a ground (as happened in Athens in 2007), or on the off-chance of just brazenly walking in amongst a massive crowd of similarly ticketless fans who are likely to start a violent confrontation with anyone who dares to try and stop them watching their beloved team, even if they haven't got a valid ticket.

Don't you understand? "You'll never walk alone" means a Liverpool fan has a divine right to watch their team by any means possible, fair or foul, and woe betide anyone that tries to stop them.

Of course, no-one is allowed to mention Hysel... that's out of order (but of course it's perfectly OK for Liverpool fans to sing about Munich!!!) Hypocritical scum, the lot of them!

Liverpool FC... ashamed of nothing, offended by everything.