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Re: Mourinho, the boring as fuck, high spending one

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:52 am
by Bob Singleton
Yes, I was bored out of my skull watching Chelsea beat Arsenal 6-0 a few weeks ago... it truly was a great example of what a boring, defensive team Chelsea are.

Did Liverpool fans really expect Chelsea to just allow them to roll them over like they have done to others at Anfield recently? Is it their God-given right to score a hat full of goals in the first 15-20 minutes? Or are Chelsea well within their rights to try and stop the opposition from scoring?

I hear all this crap about "time wasting", but it wasn't "wasted" if the referee added it on at the end, which he did! The wonderful thing is, of course, that Chelsea's first goal came during that period of "time added on for time-wasting" HA HA HA HA!!!!! That was LOVELY!!!!

What Liverpool fans seem to forget is that Mourinho out-thought Rogers. Liverpool didn't NEED to win, but Chelsea DID. Yet Liverpool played like a team that were overly desperate. That led to wasted passes, shots from 30 yards out and mistakes... mistakes like Gerrard taking his eye off the ball. If you hadn't watered the pitch so much in order for the ball to zip around "the Liverpool way" he might not have slipped. Still, typical Liverpool... blame it on others instead.

Stop being so bitter about losing to team who were without Cech, Terry, Luiz, Hazard and Eto'o through injury, Ramires through suspension and Cahill, Oscar, and others being rested for Wednesday's game against Atletico.

A 20 year old Kalas, making his debut, had Suarez in his pocket for most of the game... a great flat-track bully and serial diver who rarely got a sniff at goal. Kalas never even allowed him close enough to bite him, that's how good he was yesterday!

Chelsea have a team that can attack when necessary, and that can defend when necessary. Like others, we have off days when we draw or lose games we shouldn't. That's what makes the Premier League so fascinating.

Our Achilles heel is that we don't really have the top striker needed to kill some of those games off early the way Liverpool have recently. Man City have a team that are capable of both defending and attacking. Their Achilles heel is that while they have a good defence on paper, they don't always defend as well as they should. Liverpool have a great attack. Nullify that and they have nothing. Their Achilles heel is Stevie Me who tries far too often to win a game single-handedly. Make him lose his head and the rest will crumble. We saw that yesterday.


Bob

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:20 pm
by David Johnson
"Yes, I was bored out of my skull watching Chelsea beat Arsenal 6-0 a few weeks ago... it truly was a great example of what a boring, defensive team Chelsea are."

The exception is not the rule. Well for most people anyway.

"I hear all this crap about "time wasting", but it wasn't "wasted" if the referee added it on at the end, which he did! "

Err, the referee added nowhere near enough time to reflect the amount of time-wasting that was going on. The huge mistake the referee made was to not book a player early doors for time-wasting. The Chelsea time-wasting went on throughout the entire game and was clearly in response to a managerial directive given they were all at it including Mourinho.

"What Liverpool fans seem to forget is that Mourinho out-thought Rogers."

Not really. Chelsea just defended in great depth which is what they tend to do against the top sides in the Premier League and the CHampions League. They only got the key goal because of a Gerrard slip. Otherwise it probably would have ended up as a draw given Chelsea showed little intent to attack and Liverpool had an off day missing a number of chances that normally would have been buried. I suspect Liverpool were showing some "Champions fever" nerves.

"Stop being so bitter about losing to team who were without Cech, Terry, Luiz, Hazard and Eto'o through injury, Ramires through suspension and Cahill, Oscar, and others being rested for Wednesday's game against Atletico."

Yeah. "Our squad is really threadbare. Our forwards are all drawing their pensions and if we are going to compete at the highest level consistently we need another ?200 million Mr Abramovich. Otherwise how could we manage if we didn't have ten times as much to spend as nearly everyone else in the League? Pretty please" J, Mourinho.

As for the boring as fuck claim, Mourinho is without question the most cautious, defensive manager around even compared to other Chelsea managers.



Anyway for the good of football, let's hope either Atletico, Real or Bayern give them a good spanking in the Champions League and either Liverpool or Man City win the Premier League.

Re: Mourinho, the boring as fuck, high spending one

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:34 pm
by Sam Slater
I agree with most of that, Bob. Said almost the exact same thing in my post above.

But I can see David's point too. It is boring to most people who don't appreciate the small intricacies or have any depth to their understanding. And it was the mental battle with Rodgers that I appreciated more than the actual tactics on the pitch. Making Liverpool feel like it was them that needed the win was a masterstroke. After that miscontrol by Gerrard I got a raging hard on.

Too bad you're wrong on Moyes, though !laugh!


Re: Mourinho, the boring as fuck, high spending one

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:37 pm
by David Johnson
"I don't watch Chelsea much but ask their supporters would they have a boring winning team or a losing attacking team."

Well in a lot of cases they would prefer a boring, winning team. Fortunately not every team's fans are like that. Sam Allardyce has been getting a lot of stick from a section of the West Ham fans for playing too much of the long ball game even booing the team when they won a game or two.

Sam

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:45 pm
by David Johnson
"And it was the mental battle with Rodgers that I appreciated more than the actual tactics on the pitch"

Yeah, that's what I did. Dozed off and thought about the "mental battle" rather than open my eyes and "watch the actual tactics on the pitch".

Why is it that people who have a quote from Nietzsche in each post, try to intellectualise the process of farting?

I suspect a misguided view of their own intelligence.

I'm only guessing, of course. !wink!

Re: Sam

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:52 pm
by MrTickle
I'm sure if England won the world cup playing the way Chelsea played no one would be complaining.

Re: Bob

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:56 pm
by Bob Singleton
David Johnson wrote:


> Yeah. "Our squad is really threadbare. Our forwards are all
> drawing their pensions and if we are going to compete at the
> highest level consistently we need another ?200 million Mr
> Abramovich. Otherwise how could we manage if we didn't have
> ten times as much to spend as nearly everyone else in the
> League? Pretty please" J, Mourinho.


I very much doubt we'll be spending anywhere near that amount... you must be confusing Chelsea with Man Utd

Whatever Chelsea DO spend will be offset to a certain degree with money recouped from selling players such as Torres (hopefully), Ba (would like to see him stay but he won't be happy being a bit-part player again), Lukaku, Marin, Romeu, Moses, Kakuta and Bertrand (possibly)... maybe even Luiz if Barca or PSG come in with a big enough offer. If neither Bertrand nor van Arnholt are recalled from their loans, we're possibly looking at a left back, someone in the deeper midfield who can play the ball to go alongside Matic, and a striker or two. That's around 4 first team players. Nowhere near ?200m

Liverpool, on the other hand... whatever happens this season they're in the Champions League next year and the squad is nowhere near good enough to fight on four fronts. Liverpool are only where they are now because they've not had other games to contend with. I can see Liverpool doing a United next season.

As for the rest of your nonsense post... stop being so bitter.


Re: Bob

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:13 pm
by David Johnson
"Liverpool, on the other hand... whatever happens this season they're in the Champions League next year and the squad is nowhere near good enough to fight on four fronts. Liverpool are only where they are now because they've not had other games to contend with. I can see Liverpool doing a United next season."

I agree with that.

"As for the rest of your nonsense post... stop being so bitter."

Believe it or not, I am not a Liverpool supporter. I was brought up in the north east and regularly went as a kid to watch Sunderland and sometimes Newcastle when Sunderland were playing away.

Now that I have moved away, most of my football viewing tends to be on the screen. So there is absolutely no element of bitterness about my posts on this. I am not an embittered Liverpool supporter.

I am a supporter of good, exciting attacking football e.g. United under Ferguson, Liverpool, Man City and Spurs this season.

What I am not a supporter of is boring as fuck, time wasting and teams that spend most of their time in their own box. I had enough of that watching Italian football a few decades ago. That was boring as fuck as well.

So the only reason I want to see Mourinho's Chelsea lose is because if they don't I am concerned that a whole bundle of top teams will try to play the same boring as fuck football.

Mr Tickle

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:16 pm
by David Johnson
I think you are probably right. If Gerrard machine gunned the German forward line in the final, this would probably be viewed as necessary for England at long, long, long last winning something.

And if Gerrard got sent off as a result and we lost the game, I would guess we would blame the referee for bias.

Re: Sam//Argie

Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:08 pm
by Arginald Valleywater
To clear things up it was Bindippers FC 0 Chelsea 2. 3 points went on Chelsea's tally. Liverpool did not score. Ta Dah!