Usura

[Walter Burns]

I would like to revisit this film. I have just watched it again and boy, do I have questions (and possibly some big changes in store in Alec).

I will skip the guys and focus on the girls. The good news first: 11 were credited, 11 do appear. Hurrah, finally an Italian director who can count.

However, EGAFD lists 13 girls. Let's try to find out what went wrong.

First, here are the 11 in the order in which they were credited on the tape: Luana Borgia, Hayni Hilford, Susan Besteck, Paru Silios, Katy Borman, Timea Astor, Erika Thunder, Angela Pintus, Caterina Lievacic, Domitiana Klever and Blondie.

Luana Borgia, Paru Silios, Katy Borman, Timea Astor, Erika Thunder and Caterina Lievacic are all correctly ID'ed in the EGAFD.

That leaves Hayni Hilford, Susan Besteck, Angela Pintus, Domitiana Klever and Blondie.


First, Hayni Hilford. This alias was chosen by the EGAFD as the main name for Karli Sweet. However, Karli does not appear in Usura. Wanda Curtis -- also listed as being in Usura -- does and I am convinced that Hayni Hilford is an alias for Wanda Curtis, not Karli Sweet. Usura is the only title I know of that uses the alias Hayni Hilford.


If we delete Hayni/Karli Sweet, the EGAFD still has 12 girls. The other girl not listed in the credits of the tape, but listed at the EGAFD is Mercedes [2]. If she appears in Usura, she must be this girl who appears in a scene with Wanda Curtis.
[IMG]http://img187.imagevenue.com/loc468/th_61895_girl2_usura_123_468lo.jpg[/IMG]
I'm not 100% convinced she is Mercedes [2], though.

So now EGAFD has 11 girls, but still some questions pop up.


The most puzzling perhaps is Angela Pintus, who EGAFD has listed as Alize Young. While the name Angela Pintus does appear in the credit sequence, I don't think any of the girls in Usura matches the different pictures of Alize Young in the EGAFD. This girl is the only brunette I couldn't ID and I don't think she is Alize Young. She does look awfully familiar though:
[IMG]http://img111.imagevenue.com/loc678/th_61890_girl1_usura_123_678lo.jpg[/IMG]
I know I should know this girl. One of you Babe Masters will surely ID her and then I will smack my forehead and say, "why didn't I think of her".


And I would also like to discuss Blondie again. While the alias was used in the credit sequence, I don't think the Italian Blondie now listed at EGAFD appears in Usura. She is not the girl in the scene with Wanda Curtis -- who I have compared to Mercedes [2] -- or the brunette -- who I have compared to Angela Pintus -- so that leaves only 1 other unID'ed girl:
[IMG]http://img143.imagevenue.com/loc849/th_61906_girl3_usura_123_849lo.jpg[/IMG]
I just don't think this is the Italian Blondie.


And finally, I am fairly sure that Domitiana Klever is this older woman, in a NonSex role:
[IMG]http://img225.imagevenue.com/loc60/th_61889_domitianaklever_usura_123_60lo.jpg[/IMG]


All in all, I have 3 unID'ed girls for 3 aliases: Susan Besteck, Angela Pintus and Blondie.

Any input very much appreciated.

p.s. The caps are in black and white because the whole fucking video is in black and white.

[jj]

Read in haste, on way out door !

Mercedes [2]: your cap more like her than anyone else I can think of, off
top of my head [esp. that blemish on cheek].

Blondye:
[IMG]http://img195.imagevenue.com/loc91/th_6 ... 3_91lo.jpg[/IMG].

Will dig out my copy tonite.

[jj]

[Huff, puff, rush.......]

Blondye, yes:
[IMG]http://img217.imagevenue.com/loc460/th_68816_PDVD_006_123_460lo.jpg[/IMG];

Mercedes [2], yes:
[IMG]http://img182.imagevenue.com/loc488/th_68817_PDVD_007_123_488lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img149.imagevenue.com/loc1094/th_68818_PDVD_008_123_1094lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img191.imagevenue.com/loc431/th_68823_PDVD_009_123_431lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img130.imagevenue.com/loc240/th_68829_PDVD_010_123_240lo.jpg[/IMG].

Couldn't spot Hayni Hilford at all, although she's credited; the masked girl
with M [2] might be Alize Joung but I just don't know [is that a tattoo
glimpsed on the right shoulder?]:
[IMG]http://img218.imagevenue.com/loc426/th_68962_PDVD_011_123_426lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img209.imagevenue.com/loc178/th_68963_PDVD_013_123_178lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img220.imagevenue.com/loc392/th_68973_PDVD_015_123_392lo.jpg[/IMG].

I'd guess that 'Susan Besteck' is the unknown blonde in Lindauer's
scene:
[IMG]http://img223.imagevenue.com/loc117/th_69025_PDVD_016_123_117lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img225.imagevenue.com/loc561/th_69025_PDVD_018_123_561lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img169.imagevenue.com/loc973/th_69026_PDVD_019_123_973lo.jpg[/IMG].

[jj]

The 'Hilford' thing is intriguing......need to look into that.

And I suddenly see that my 'tattoo-reference' above supports your
contention that the masked girl with M [2] is Wanda C, which would mean
that Alize Joung is also absent, yes?

The usual Salieri credits fuck-up.... ?
Or has it been cut? [My copy is the Colmax DVD, 'Il Maestro'].

[Walter Burns]

jj wrote:

>
> Couldn't spot Hayni Hilford at all, although she's credited;
> the masked girl
> with M [2] might be Alize Joung but I just don't know
> [is that a tattoo
> glimpsed on the right shoulder?]:
> [IMG]http://img218.imagevenue.com/loc426/th_68962_PDVD_011_123_426lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img209.imagevenue.com/loc178/th_68963_PDVD_013_123_178lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img220.imagevenue.com/loc392/th_68973_PDVD_015_123_392lo.jpg[/IMG].

I am 100% sure the masked girl is Wanda Curtis. You have to be quick, but you can see her face just before she puts on the mask.

Wanda has been credited elsewhere as Hayni Cristhen and Hayni Kovacks. I still don't know of any other title which uses Hayni Hilford in any way. So I come to the conclusion that Hayni Hilford in an alias for Wanda Curtis, not Karli Sweet/Hayni.

[Walter Burns]

jj wrote:

> [Huff, puff, rush.......]
>
> Blondye, yes:
> [IMG]http://img217.imagevenue.com/loc460/th_68816_PDVD_006_123_460lo.jpg[/IMG];

You mean the Italian Blondie now listed on EGAFD as being in Usura?

[Walter Burns]

Of course. I should have looked at the gallery. I was looking for a blonde.

[Walter Burns]

jj wrote:

>
> I'd guess that 'Susan Besteck' is the unknown blonde in
> Lindauer's
> scene:
> [IMG]http://img223.imagevenue.com/loc117/th_69025_PDVD_016_123_117lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img225.imagevenue.com/loc561/th_69025_PDVD_018_123_561lo.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://img169.imagevenue.com/loc973/th_69026_PDVD_019_123_973lo.jpg[/IMG].

If Susan Besteck is this blonde and Blondie is the first brunette, then Mercedes [2] must have been credited as Angela Pintus. How sure are we that Angela Pintus is Salieri's alias for Alize Young?

[Texxx]

Very interesting thread! but I'm !confused!

I think that Susan Besteck or rather the blonde with Erika Lindauer can be xnk1576, not sure. What do you think?

[Texxx]

Walter Burns wrote:


> And finally, I am fairly sure that
> Domitiana
> Klever is this older woman, in a NonSex role:
> [IMG]http://img225.imagevenue.com/loc60/th_61889_domitianaklever_usura_123_60lo.jpg[/IMG]
>
>

The same as this older woman in Malizia Italiana.