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Re: ID for a girl please?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:34 pm
by Len801
The technical word starts with a "e", as you may have guessed.

Re: ID for a girl please?

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:29 am
by jj
This tends to be an issue mainly on bgafd, where several of "the girls" visit.

Why it should offend their self-esteem to be described by that term is beyond
me- the only difference between the two activities being that one always takes
place in front of a camera.
I can't see that brief mention of the 'employment options' of a US ex-pornstar
on a Euro-dedicated forum is likely to atttract very much moderatorly wrath : -)


Re: ID for a girl please?

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:09 am
by Len801
I did not make the rules for this forum (and some others), which specifically state in the FAQ secftion:
3.1.3 Similarly, all postings relating to rumoured or actual escort services provided by any of the girls will also be removed.

Anyone above a cetain age and acquainted with porn performers and how they make a living will come to the realization they do escort service before, during and after they are through with porn. Why should that practice offend the sensibilities of a porn site is beyond me. It seems to be easier to flaunt their porn performance activities. It has rarely happened that a escort service has plastered a porn performer's name and photo on their site when it may have been proven she has not done any work for them. Beyond that, how much "offensive" is it to be labed escort girl or porn girl?

Re: ID for a girl please?

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:29 am
by jj
I agree entirely; unfortunately it's the sensibilities of other people that dictate
the rule. To cause offence [or rather, to allow someone the opportunity to decide
to take offence] is a general taboo on social forums, so we have to live with it,
despite personal feelings. I gather from my now-brief forays into the Other Place
that most UK girls in the sex business are happy to be considered 'actresses'
[irrespective of how much actual acting the task involves- I draw a distinction
here with 'simulation', the faked oohs and aaahs of pleasure, etc], but throw
their toys out of the pram if they're called The Other Word, despite the paper-thin
distinction. Britain still has a long way to go to catch up with Europe in grown-up
attitudes to prostitution, so it's generally regarded here as rather 'shameful'-
rank hypocrisy, of course; we Brits do seem to specialise in that sort of thing,
I'm afraid.
Frankly, it's not really a problem for most of us as their extramural activities
aren't [or shouldn't be] of much interest.

As to your quote, I'd [rather legalistically] argue that in that context "any of the
girls" should be construed as "any of the girls appearing in the database" and
that therefore Stevie would be exempt.


Re: ID for a girl please?

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:17 am
by Len801
I believe women in the "sex trade" whether they are "modeling", "prostituting" in the streets, working in bordellos, "escorting" or just simply porn actresses, are basically doing the same thing. They are offering their bodies for various activities for pay. Whether the pay in question is declared to the tax authorities or not dictates what trade they are in.
It is easier to hide (some, all) income when you are just whoring around, or just not declaring (Traci Lords, Ginger Lynn, Janine, etc).
Many performers (prefer to) make a moral and social distinction in whether they sucking dick in front of a camera, or just plainly doing the same thing with a "client" in a hotel room. Some take offence if someone shouts them out as escorts (even if it is true) and some others flaunt what they do and their rates of course are higher when they have a certain name due to porn work.
Take for instance trannies. If you look at their filmographies, you hardly see a handful of titles. You think these people are bank managers, stock brokers, vice presidents at Apple and just now and then do a porn movie for the fun of it?
I think it is shameful for many porn actresses to hide behind the moniker "porn actresses" just to make it appear that it is a higher calling and more moral conduct. Jenna can do porn interviews and everyone knows she has not done anals, DP's, piss scenes, fisting, interracial, etc. But what if she had done these things and did escorting, do you think she would be regarded in the same way? I doubt it.
What is even more disturbing (regardless of what these women think of themselves or how they want to be labeled) is that adult discussion forums bend over backwards and will refuse posts that deal with any discussion of "escorting". I mean how many porn performers actually post here (under their porn names)? So if I say that Jane Smith escorted after she abandoned her porn career, am I supposeded to believe that she would (successfully) sue EGAFD for allowing such posts? It boggles the mind, considring the type of comments people make all over the internet these days. .

Re: ID for a girl please?

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:23 am
by jj
As you've said at some length, the business is so fraught with 'human factors'
such as self-image and self-delusion that one can hardly blame the mods for
taking the line of least resistance and more or less outlawing the topic altogether.