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Re: unkown movie
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:10 am
by jj
I can't watch those prolapse-y things- I mean, really- WTF???
I'm all for porn being transgressive but combining it with proctology is a step
too far. But the greatest sin - to my eyes- is: it's not remotely erotic.
Re: unkown movie
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:20 am
by Len801
Had Americans been allowed to feature fisting scenes in their porn movies, Debro Coeur propbably would be
a relative unknown in porn history.
There were fisting scenes in the 1970's and 1980's in American porn, but were
rather rare, due to obscenity rules (which still circumvent such sceness in general
mainstream porn).
Euro porn was freer to explore bestiality, fisting, pissing, scat, BDSM (involving sex) to the degree that
Americans could not.
Re: unkown movie
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:57 am
by jj
What made me laugh and scream in equal measure about that ban was that it
didn't apply to lesbian sex [or at any rate, it was later exempted].
So you had the unedifying sight of the Supreme Court simultaneously affirming
the 'rights' of one section of the populace while denying that same privilege
to another. The qualification 'rights' in the above is designed to emphasize
the confusion present in many democracies between genuine rights, and licence -
and we see daily the deadly results of that misinterpretation.
Re: unkown movie
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:44 am
by laurablackfan
To be honest im really not a big fan of fisting in porn, but movies with Debora Coeur were always really good, again gotta mention those DBM titles, i guess it has alot to do with Gabriel Pontello too.
Re: unkown movie
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:04 am
by Len801
Fisting in euro movies was always censored or altogether not imported into North America.
When tube sites started going up and some clips or entire euro movies
began to circulate on the web, the only thing one would see were those disgusting movie/scenes
with Alain L'Yle. That was the worst turn-off of all. Just the sight of that guy's face
would make my stomach churn.
I generally like fisting scenes, if it involves females. Many fisting scenes
are not well shot or produced, and mostly feature a woman (fister) who does a very poor
job of it. They think that just energetic pumping in and out (like a piston) for 10 minutes is very erotic. It isn't.
Some sites like TeachMeFisting, 21Sextury do a fairly good job of it with very
attractive young ladies in it. And when the fist barely involves nothing past the knuckles, I
don't really see the point of it either. If the girl can't really take the whole fist, they should
shut off the cameras and lights and send everyone home.
The lamest is the 4-finger type present in many american girl-girl porn. They have to show
that thumb sticking way out, just in case someone (consumers, the law?) gets the terrible idea
the whole hand is being used. How stupid can that be. If you can't put a whole hand in it, what is the point?
Re: unkown movie
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:08 am
by jj
Agree entirely- to borrow the title, "the whole fist and nothing but the fist" : -)
The TMF offerings are a mixed bag - you have beautiful Zafira taking a proper
fisting, then loads of scenes [usually with Lauryn May as the fister] where the
recipient gets about half a dose. Waste of time. US scenes are almost universally
execrable.
One of the best general series for fisting was 'Chick Extreme' [not to be confused
with the Chick titles currently listed], mostly fairly pretty Dutch/Scan unknowns
with some long and inventively varied scenes. They're high up on my 'to do' list.
There was a particularly memorable 'standing' fist, at least as good as the best
that DBM etc. could do**. Even the mainstream Seventeen titles used to regularly
feature a fisting scene.
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If I had to pick my fave fistee, it'd have to be Daniella Rush. But it's an eternal
regret that AFAIK she never took in one in her pussy.... : -)
Re: unkown movie
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 12:15 pm
by Len801
>JJ said
>Agree entirely- to borrow the title, "the whole fist and nothing but the fist" : -)
Well that was a very singular fisting experiment by Patrick Collins several years ago.
He tested the waters to see whether authorities would pursue him for "obscenity". They did not,
but he did not want to push the envelope too much for the time, and did not repeat that experiment.
Things did not turn out too well for Max Hardcore, and he landed in prison on "obscentity" charges.
Fisting is better relegated to Kink (and other) web scenes for US porn. It is virtually
unseen in US mainstream DVD releases.
The 4-finger method exercised by male and female performers (whether shot in the US or shot in
Europe for US releases) have been going on for quite some time now, and I have no idea whether the
raincoat crowd really goes for that type of stuff.
Re: unkown movie
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:12 pm
by laurablackfan
Daniella Rush, oh another legend, if i can call her like that, always great except those terrible boring movies she made in USA.
Re: unkown movie
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:19 pm
by jj
Len801 wrote:
> Well that was a very singular fisting experiment by Patrick
> Collins several years ago.
And even then the fists were cased in femidoms.
> He tested the waters to see whether authorities would pursue
> him for "obscenity". They did not,
... but I suspect they would have, had he continued.
> Things did not turn out too well for Max Hardcore, and he
> landed in prison on "obscenity" charges.
The fisting was the least of the charges' gravamen. What did for him were
the choking, the spitting, the piss, and the 'underage schoolie' set-up.
And of course the politics.
There was little sympathy for him - even from within the industry - as his
stuff was so full of barely-suppressed violence, and rage against women.
> Fisting is better relegated to Kink (and other) web scenes for US porn.
At least Kink do it properly. Mostly : -)