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Re: Libidine Veneziana (2000) - a review

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:34 am
by Ogre
"Well not so "easy" as you claim. My efforts have only uncovered the apprent same 96-98 minutes version
I have been referring to. The long 108 version is not so easily found in whatever language."

When I referred to the versions that were easy to find, I didn't mean a version you can purchase, but rather that it's the first thing that pops up when you type the movie name to google (which I refrained from hotlinking because of obvious reasons). I understand that's probably not what you're looking for, but it is in this case, an easy to way to see the longer version.

Re: Libidine Veneziana (2000) - a review

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 3:34 am
by Len801
Ogre, I understood perfectly what you were saying in your earlier post.
The full version (french or italian) of whatever quality does not easily come up on Google searches.
Otherwise I would have found it. "First thing" yeah right (dead links perhaps)....
In any event, I will give it another shot.
I have for the time being found some screencaps of the full scene which show come
thumbnails of the b x w threesome scene involving Loren. And it seems to also contain scene 2
as I described in my review. I am still puzzled by the content of the two. There seems
to be some illogical reason for the presence of the two scenes.
Will report on this further within next 24 hours.

Re: Libidine Veneziana (2000) - a review

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:04 am
by Ogre
A working movie really is the first hit for me when I type "Libidine Veneziana" in google. Strange. I would of course post it for you but piracy is frowned upon.

I reiterated about the scene for the reason of the plot. I thought perhaps if the scene is further described and explained through a somewhat interrupted lesbian encounter, that it *might* make sense in the plotline.

Personally I have no idea about the plot since I don't understand french or italian.

Re: Libidine Veneziana (2000) - a review

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:43 pm
by Len801
I have seen the edited and cut French edition andhave succeeded in tracking down the FULL Italian version.
I will fully comment on my revised review what they contain.
The part in the credit (very surreal), the follwoing b x x 3-some that follows and subsequent (non sex ) scene with Trentalance and
Renata Rey make no sense whatsoever. I have no idea what they were smoking/drinking/ingesting at the time.

Re: Libidine Veneziana (2000) - a review

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 7:52 pm
by Len801
Please disregard what I wrote in my previous posts. Here is the revised revew of the movie.

LIBIDINE VENEZIANA
(France: LA VEUVE SANS PUDEUR) distributed by VMD
(2000,Stars Pictures)
108 min
Director: Axel De Sisti
Producer: Andrea Lucci, Ricky Grimaldi
script: Andrea Lucci
Photography: Max Roll
Music: Angelo Bellini
Cast: Renata Ray=Renata Rey (Vanessa), Laura Angel (Gina), Tanita Bruni=Maria Loren, Lady Rox, Julia Dal Fuoco (Julia), Chipy Marlow, Andrea Nobili, Miro Danola=Miro Da Nola (Stefano), Franco Trentalancia=Franco Trentalance, David Perry, Andrea De Santi (non sex), Jackal (non sex), Alex Mantegna (Alex)

(1) The movie begins with a woman applying make-up to a male (Franco Trentalance) practically in total darkness, while the movie credits roll on. He says strange things to her (I am more or less paraphrasing): "You only know a part of my problems...but you don't know everything. I had a lot of hopes, but I went wrong somewhere. Having a regular job, with no money...shitty place...a real disaster. No satisfactions, no money. I lacked some luck". The woman asks him: "Why don't you try seeing a doctor, a psychiatrist, someone?". He dismisses her earnest suggestion saying: "A psychiatrist will not pay the bills or the rent... I am ready". At this point the make-up woman puts a woman's wig over the man's head. The credits end and there is a fade-out.
(2) The next scene is totally shown in black x white. Two women (Renata Rey, Maria Loren) lie down on a bed and have lesbian sex. Vanessa (Rey) manages to give Loren (her character is not given a name) a good pussy licking, when a man (Franco Trentalance) enters the bedroom and is very upset that Vanessa is spending more time with Loren than with him. Vanessa tells Loren that the man is her boyfriend, who she meet in the street. He is invited to join the two women and he takes turns in individually fucking them in the ass. He jerks off over Loren's face, and some sperm falls down on Vanessa's face as well.
The scene fades out with a title card indicating "Two Hour[sic] later"
(3) Vanessa (Renata Rey) is summoned to the police headquarters (I am assuming the policeman who knocks at her door is by process of elimination: Andrea De Santi) and questioned by police inspector (Jackal) about the death of her rich businessman husband. Stefano Bertoli (Miro Da Nola). They have uncovered that Stefano was criminally involved with the mob
In flashback we see Stefano giving her an expensive ring as a present and in return he demands something in return. In a limousine she gives him a bj. The oral sex in the limo is completely simulated. The couple then move outside the limo and continue their lovemaking on top of the car hood. Stefano is seen giving her some oral and stuffing a golden metallic dildo in her pussy. She now gives him some more bj (this part is not now simulated, but he packs only a little pecker), and he does manages to spew a few good squirts in her open mouth (shown in slow motion)
(4) Vanessa continues her storytelling, and recalls a time when she was at home bored, and outside in the street she met up with and old flame (Franco Terntalance). He takes her to his hotel room. When she questions him as to what he has been up to he tells her that she is familiar with his story, and that on occasion he gets to meet rich clients which allows him to have a better life. She in turn tells him she is unhappily married to an older man, who does not allow her much of a social life. He is also unhappily married, and shot of cash, and proposes to her that they could mutually help each other. They kiss and scene fades out
(5) Also in flashback, we see a brief meeting with Stefano and his crooked lawyer (Andrea Nobili). Stefano has provided a little reward for him in the guise of a prostitute (Lady Rox) who is waiting for him in one of the rooms [anal, she jerks him off over her open mouth]
(6) In this flashback scene Stefano and his wife Vanessa are discussing his decision to take out a 500,000 Lire life insurance policy with two insurance brokers, Alex (Alex Mantegna) and his associate Julia (Julia Dal Fuoco). However Stefano makes it clear to the two insurance brokers that he will only conclude the deal if they let him watch while the young couple has sex on a huge hammock outdoors [anal). Alex jerks off over her tongue and open mouth, and Stefano who was watching nearby is very aroused and asks the girl to get him off as well (he sprays her mouth/face as well)..
(7) In this other flashback scene which takes place the day after scene 3, Vanessa presents her friend Gina (Laura Angel) to Andrea Nobili, while Stefano is out of town on business. Nobili is enchanted with Gina, and Vanessa initially decides to watch (and masturbate) while watching Gina give a bj to Nobili. Then Nobili watches while Vanessa orally pleases Gina on a couch. Nobili fucks Gina on a bed while Vanessa simply masturbates nearby on the couch [vaginal and anal sex in a variety of positions with Laura Angel jerking him off over her open mouth]
(8) Stefano, Vanessa and Nobili are taking a boat ride through Venice. Stefano becomes aroused and all 3 head below deck for some fun. Vanessa blows Stefano while Nobili watches and she jerks him off over his stomach
(9) in a flashback dream sequence, while Stefano is sleeping on a couch on patio, a young woman in blue appears to him (Chipy Marlow). On a couch near an interior swimming pool Chipy and Julia Dal Fuoco have a fantasy lesbian encounter, and some time later are joined by David Perry [anal for Julia, Chipy jerks him off with most of the cum landing on Julia's head and face].
(10) Alex the insurance agent visits Vanessa at home to go over the insurance policy and she confides that Stefano does not sexually satisfy her. He is more than willing to help her out in that regard and they have sex on a bed. [anal, he jerks off over her pussy]
(11) Soon after this encounter, Stefano has a heated argument with Vanessa and he accuses her of being unfaithful. He has a heart attack.
(12) While Vanessa is being questioned by police inspector, his assistant brings him the results of Stefano's autopsy showing there was no foul play and that he had died of a heart attack. In addition, Stefano has had a long-standing heart condition. But it is not clear whether this invalidates the insurance policy or not.

General observations:
=The Italian and French versions both indicate Renata Rey's character as being Vanessa. However publicity material from VMD's French version indicates her name as being "Elisa".
= For some reason not really clear at time of this review, there seems to be an abbreviated edited version (in French) floating around lasting about 96 minutes which does not contain the Trentalance/Rey/Loren scene. I am unsure whether VMD had anything to do with this edit, or whether some person edited that way.
In any event that 3-some scene (shown in b x w) makes little sense with what later follows in the scene between Trentalance and Rey at his hotel room. It would have been a lot more logical to show that 3-some right after that Trentalance/Rey hotel room scene. If you follow the plotline and dialogue, we discover that Rey has a chance meeting with Trentalance on the street (not shown, but told on a couple of occasions), they have a brief discussion regarding their unhappy situation and marriages and they become intimate. The black and white scene obviously takes place later, when the two have become lovers and really there is not logical reason to show it in black and white.
In any event, I am not sure how the romantic relationship between Trentalance and Rey is of any real financial benefit to Trentalance. It does not look like Rey is giving him any money, and in any event her husband Rey is a very controlling and jealous guy, so it does not appear Rey can in any substantial way help Trentalance get out of his financial rut he is in. In addition the very first scene and the fact Trentalance mentions to her that she is aware of his "story" (he is a cross dresser who preys on rich guys) seems rather odd. Would Rey want to hang around and have sex with a guy like that? We know Rey is sexually frustrated and finds herself in a very controlling relationship with Stefano. She does not seem to be involved in kinky sex, only Stefano seems to have odd sexual tastes.
=Finally it is not entirely clear what Vanessa gets to finally inherit or not. We are told there is a will, and that Vanessa assumes she has inherited her husband's assets. But the autopsy has revealed Stefano has a heart condition, which normally (depending when the policy was issued) would invalidate it if it was not revealed to the insurance company. At the movie's end the police inspector tells Rey she has two days to clear out of her house (not explained why) and he hands her a letter and a big check (supposedly from Stefano).


Re: Libidine Veneziana (2000) - a review

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 5:33 am
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