Suomityt?t 1-4 info

[deezer]

Airola wrote:

> About Uivelot:
> "The film will be ready during autumn 2007 and the dvd version
> will be publised at least in Finland during the spring 2008."

Thanks, this date was correct in the db.



> It's Me Candy was
> released in the 20th of May 2005 at Sexhibition festival in Helsinki.

Thanks, amended.




> About Suomityt?t 1-4:
>
> S1 was released sometime in 2005.
> S3 was released in Spring 2006.
>
> S2 was released somewhere in between them.
>
> S4 contains material with S?de who started to film with
> Kullervo in 2007.
>I would bet on 2008.

Thanks all dates amended. I took 2008 for S4.



> When S1 and Amat??ristudio (I will post info about that some day)
> were released
> Kullervo stated on his website that these are collections of
> scenes
> that were filmed "on the side" of his main projects
> and that he also filmed new material to stitch the things
> together.


You mean, some of the scenes in S1-4 and Amat??ristudio were
shot earlier then other scenes?




> About "Pissing with Stars" that Kullervo mentions:
> Apparently this was supposed to be a new trilogy after
> Suomityt?t trilogy.
> However, apart from there being a trailer of it at the end of
> Suomityt?t 3,
> there is zero evidence of them existing.
> The trailer mostly shows things seen already at least in
> "Amat??ristudio"
> and "Vanillan p?iv?kirja".


This part of the text draw my attention, as there was a date mentioned,
15.06.2006, and also S1-3, so this films must have been released to this
date.
I didn't took it because of the PwS, as I din't have any clue of that film.




> Interestingly another trilogy exists, Ripsipiirakat 1-3.
> See here:

Yep, I found that site also, but wanted to keep the focus on the films we already have.




> KK's website mentions in October 2007 that Ripsipiirakat 2 will
> be released soon.
> So I would think all of them were released in 2006-2008.
>
> Reading the summaries of these movies they all sound awfully
> lot the same as Suomityt?t movies.
> Judging by the screenshots seen in the site for Ripsipiirakat 3
> it features same scenes as Suomityt?t 4:
> However, the text also mentions Seidi Rivera who isn't in S4.
>
> So I think this is how it basically goes:
> KK made Suomityt?t trilogy (plus later the 4th part) partially
> from scenes already filmed, partially from scenes filmed in the side of
> main projects, and partially from completely new scenes.
> Then KK was supposed to make this "Pissing with Stars" trilogy
> and that was also supposed to be done like that except that
> they would focus on certain kinks. That never happened.
> In the end KK made Ripsipiirakat trilogy that contain both new
> scenes
> and old scenes that were already in movies where those scenes
> were old scenes.
> Or perhaps those scenes were the new scenes in S1-4 and now he
> just took them and made new movies using those as filler.
> Oh dear, this is confusing...

Yep, confusing. And much more confusing, as I have to use google
translator for the Finnish text. Therefore I asked you to read it. !grin!





> You can see a list of some KK's 90's an 2000's movies with some
> text summaries here:
> https://web.archive.org/web/20101125070219/http://www.kkcane.com:80/elokuvat.htm


Thanks.



> "Supern?p?" is something like KK's version of Playboy's
> Playmates.
> At some point he started to feature these new models on his
> website
> and called them the "Supern?p? of the month" (as in "Playmate
> of the month").
> N?p? is a word that one would use like "honey" or "sweetie" or
> something like that when referring to a woman.
> And people would use that to define something that is small.
> It's not an "actual" real word but more of a slang term.


Thanks, I assumed something like this.



> As a complete sidenote:
> EGAFD has an entry for
> Uusi
> Kotimainen!
> That title is wrong. The real title is the "Blondes Have 2 Much
> Fun!" one mentioned in that page.
> It's a sequel to Blondes Have More Fun!


Thanks. Amended and a link to the prequel added.

[deezer]

Thanks, all added, removed, amended, upadated.... I think....

Vanillan p?iv?kirja has to wait until next year.

Whish you a Happy New Year!

[Airola]

> You mean, some of the scenes in S1-4 and Amat??ristudio were
shot earlier then other scenes?

Yes.

I've been now reading quite a bit of KK's writings on his website and in forums.
Let me try to figure out his work in the 2000's...

So...
He started in the 80's as a photographer.
He took photos for both porn magazines and regular magazines.
He then made movies too. Some were his own productions
and some were in collaboration with Papillon Films and Video Art Holland.
Sometimes he directed and sometimes he just shot photos and videos for others, or took photos and videos by himself and sold them to different companies.
At that time he often used the alias Mikko Jylh?.

KK stopped making porn films and photos late 1999 / early 2000.
According to him he had promised himself he won't ever get back in that business and he became a fisherman for a few years.
In November 2004 he appeared in a forum saying he had been rethinking about
his promise to not do porn again and asked what people would think
if he'd do a few movies with new and old friends.

However, he is already in the same day in November 2004 saying he is having
some sort of a casting show in the next Sexhibition festival in two weeks
so he definitely had been taking concrete steps in getting back in the business for a while by then.

On his website he says he started the pre-production of Uivelot in 2003 but
I don't think he had any concrete ideas of it back then
and he probably is just referring to him getting back to think about
making movies again around that time.
After all, everything he says in that forum seems to show he filmed his first
new porn shoots late 2004.

Anyway, he started to do casting tours with Kata [5].
They were looking for women to come for photo and video shoots.

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Now, as a side note when talking about Kata, see here.
Hot Lips is said to be her first porn film
so that would mean Hot Lips wasn't released in 2001 but in 1999 at latest.
Also, Katarina [3] is Kata [5].
[IMG]http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/b4/2c/2f/df6ed81078902994.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/90/20/38/02db981078903004.jpg[/IMG]
This movie has five women. P?ivi, as mentioned in the front cover, is not listed in the egafd entry of Hot Lips.
The front cover has only four women. Three of them are known,
but the one on the bottom right corner is not known.
Seeing as she isn't Kata/Katarina she must be P?ivi.
Kata is seen in the top right picture on the back cover. She is with a guy and P?ivi.
Also the back cover confirms the movie was made in 1999.

Note that this isn't a KK movie even though I'm mentioning it in this context.

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Back to KK.

Here is the first time he used the word "Supern?p?".
It was a placeholder name for this mysterious girl who was coming as a model for KK, while KK asked suggestions for a new alias for her.
Daralee Cumming was the name that ended up being chosen for her.
She very possibly didn't make any films as she left the business pretty quickly.

Later he started this "Supern?p? of the month" thing with his models.

The casting tours got him new models and he was on to making movies again while doing more casting tours.

The first movie he released was It's Me Candy in 2005.
He called these new movies as his "second season."
He had written about Uivelot earlier in 2005 and had told they had filmed some scenes already,
but he had a more official unveiling of the project at the same time he released It's Me Candy.

As we know, Uivelot project stopped for two years in 2005.
In September 2005 KK mentioned Daralee Cumming, Elene and Erica Gracilis had
left already left the business, each for their own reasons.
We know Elene was in Uivelot.
It's possible that the project stopped for a while because of some of the actresses quitting but I'm not sure about that
and there probably were tons of other reasons for that too.

Erica Gracilis (as Kristina) appeared at least in Amat??ristudio
and she made some sextoy testing videos for KK's website.
Her scene in Amat??ristudio started with something that seems to be her first casting interview
so it's very probable it was filmed in late 2004 as she was already
joined with KK by the end of 2004. And as mentioned earlier
she had quit before September 2005.
Now, Red Sonja also appeared in Amat??ristudio and she joined KK in the Fall of 2005.
So that already shows that in Amat??ristudio there are scenes that have been
filmed almost 1 year apart from each other.

KK had started to have some "filming courses" where people could pay money
to go and take pictures and video of KK's models and KK teaching them how to do it.
He would also teach people how to edit the videos.
I'm quite sure some of the scenes appearing in Suomityt?t 1-4 and Amat??ristudio were shot in these situations.

Uivelot was the main big project KK had, but he also made films like It's Me Candy and Vanillan p?iv?kirja, all the while having these filming courses.
He came up with lots of scenes, some with clear purpose and some not.
Some of them ended up in the main films, some ended up in these "scene collections" like Suomityt?t
and some ended in both.

I think he had the philosophy of "film the scenes first and then think of what you can do with them"
just like most of Club Seventeen's releases have been -
remember, KK took photographs and shot videos for Club Seventeen for quite a while earlier in his career.

As a side not when talking about other companies:
In the 90's he collaborated with Spanish Papillon Films.
Nunnat/Tentacao, Rasputin and some other movies were made with that collaboration.
In an interview KK told Papillon Films bought all of his material earlier (I assume KK still owned his stuff but that Papillon just bought some rights to his stuff).

As I earlier mentioned Daralee Cumming, in the first thread about her
KK is talking about not being able to release unmasked pictures of her
until contracts have been fully done in Barcelona.
This quite probably means he started a collaboration with Papillon Films again in late 2004.


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So, KK's "season two" contains films released between 2005 and 2008,
and the earliest shootings for those had been made in late 2004.
It's a mixture of movies and "scene collection" videos.


As far as I know Uivelot was the last movie he made.
Somewhere after Uivelot was done he, again, said he's out of this business.
He's not going to do porn films anymore.

He had his website working though, and then in 2009 he showed signs of coming back again.
He started some adult web tv thing, started to bring out "Supern?p?s" again.
He even was just about to release a new DVD that was another scene compilation.
He said there are lots of scenes that have never been released before
and that this dvd, and any sequels of it, have both old scenes and these never seen before scenes.
Some scenes were even watchable on his web tv, and it had at least Candy Stone in it, but apparently it was never released.

KK shot some new material, apparently even got Daralee Cumming back
(or just reused the old material) for a 25 minute webscene in 2010.

He may have sold these new scenes in his webstore but they never got any physical releases.

Then in December 2010 he had Mariana as December's Supern?p?
and interestingly she became his last Supern?p?.
KK even referenced to the movie Lauren Is Missing from late 90's
where she had the main role (as Lauren Kolehmainen).

KK finally officially ended his porn career in 2011 in his first art gallery where some of his photos were auctioned.
In 2017 he said he might be starting his "third season" soon but that it wouldn't be porn.

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And finally, something I found while doing the investigation:
Look here.
Someone asks who is the girl in the picture in Rasputin.
KK himself confirms she is Alexsandra Romanov.
So XNK8468 is Alexsandra Romanov (written as Alexandra Romanov in Rasputin 2).

[deezer]

Thanks, I've added P?ivi to Hot Lips and amended the year.


About Alexandra Romanov: I think this is more likely a role name then a credit.
Therefore I left her as XNK8468, but added a questionmarked alias.

[Airola]

Well, Alexandra Romanov is a name in the opening credits of both movies
and also on the covers of the DVD release.
Maybe they just chose to give her an alias that goes with the role name too.

But yeah, if she ever made other movies before or after I doubt they used that name as her alias.
I doubt they ever used that alias for her in any other movies than these Rasputin ones.

So maybe having her be an XNK but give her another alias on her page is the best way to go
as if anyone ever finds her from another movie she most certainly goes by some other name.