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Re: Adult Pro Am ?

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:03 am
by RoyR
Dave

Read the terms on the Pro Am site and then tell me it's not a scam.

They start by saying in the opening paragraph that they will market the site, but then further down they go on to say that the success of the site will be reliant on how well the model promotes it and brings in traffic to it !hmmm!.

It states that the model will need around 500 pics to begin with and then a set every 3-5 days. How successful do you realistically expect a one model site to be that only has 500 pics !confused!.

They make it sound good by giving the implication that the model will be getting 50% of every $19.95 sign up, they conveniently forget to mention the CCBill commission and the affiliates 50% coming off first.

If it was a genuine 50/50 profit share deal, then profit is what is left after all operating costs are accounted for (that would include the cost of the content), but it doesn't seem to be the way Pro Am view it, it would appear that they are looking at their 50% being 50% of turnover.

The fact is that if Pro Am or anyone else offering such a supposed 50/50 profit share deal, were both genuine and had any confidence in making a site successful, then they would either shoot or buy their content and enjoy the full profit, a successful and genuine webmaster is after all, a businessman. It is a win/win for conmen like this because they are guaranteed to make money, there doesn't appear to be any investment from them other than time and it'd appear that regarding time/effort the model will be putting in considerably more.

Roy

Re: Adult Pro Am ?

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:18 am
by Cenobitez
RGB,

I wasnt meaning, Do the site then end of, I was meaning Site Designed and Built for a lump sum, then You pay for updates as and when needed.

http://www.glamourdesigns.co.uk/ for example, been a while so the info may not be accurate, They build the site for you, then say here ya go.

If you want anything adding you go back and say please do this and this and this, they say thank you thats this much please.

Nice and simple.

However if we are talking PURELY a paysite then, a one off lump sum isnt really an option as you need constant updates, I was more speaking general modelling sites.


I aggree with the other post tho., 50% can be any amount, and within a good network of sites, 50% will begin pretty quickly to add up, where as on your own 100% will take longer to hit the said 50% but ultimately the 100% should be more.

Point taken davey :)


Re: Adult Pro Am ?

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:55 am
by daveydude
Yeah we should have been clear what type of site we were on about. I'm talking about paysites.

"I aggree with the other post tho., 50% can be any amount, and within a good network of sites, 50% will begin pretty quickly to add up, where as on your own 100% will take longer to hit the said 50% but ultimately the 100% should be more."

I still don't agree with you there - a proper adult webmaster who knows the industry can get you far more sales & traffic than you can on your own, in which case the 50% you get from him will dwarf the 100% you could get on your own.

Re: Adult Pro Am ?

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:33 pm
by rgb
OK Cen... I see what you mean.


Re: Adult Pro Am ?

Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:48 am
by Cenobitez
My point was, you near enough said a one man band is going no where.


Google was near enough a one man band, where are they ?

History tells us its usually 1 man who causes an innovation, NOT a company, a single man, so i totally disagree with that sweeping statement.