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I love this 'girls were hotter in my day'nonsense. It's got that WW2 nostalgia that we are constantly reminded off 'in my day you could leave your doors unlocked' etc.

These so called hot girls, did they ever do the amount of work that current models - Layla, Alicia Rhodes, Angel Long, etc. ever do? Well no, they never did.

Why would you hark back to a bygone age? Surely there must be a reason? Is it so you can sell old videos?

A far more worrying trend is that women generally are now much fatter than they used to be. Wander down the local high street and you are hard put to find a girl who isn't at least a stone overweight. The King of Baganda used to force-feed his wives with milk and cream until they were so fat they couldn't walk. If he were still alive today he would be in his element.

George
(on a diet - it's not just the women!)

Its simple really big bits tend to get more attention

There have been adverts done that have had to be changed because 9 out of 10 males that looked at it couldn't remember the product being advertised because of the cleavage...elle macpherson has that effect

The other interesting experiment was a flat chested good looking young lady went into a bar....no reaction by the males

So she exited and came back two hours later with a pair of 36dd
fake boobs.Within 15 seconds she had a free drink and the attention of all males within the vicinity.

Now if she hadn't been good looking...who knows?

Primal instinct and all is cetainly a driving force
but its not the be all and end all.

cheers
B...OZ Pub Crawl here We Come 20 Pubs in 7 Hours
Where are those big titted women at?

Surely the researchers took the models' published stats. Couldn't this mean that any changes are likely to be partly the result of what Playboy imagines will turn on readers.
Mart

"As girls become more like guys (in attitude as well as looks) then guys will of course cease to fancy them and not be all that inclined to see them in the buff. This is already happening of course ? Top shelf mags are in decline, porno vids are getting hard work to shift, rumbling and rumours from sat TV."

Not sure I agree with this - surely the decline of interest in traditional forms of pornography is more to do with the massive interest in internet porn - I doubt that blokes are any less interested in porn than they were 20 years ago.

I am also sure that you couldn't put off blokes from looking at porn just by slightly changing the average statistics of the models involved. We will always want to see beautiful women with good figures (however defined) doing rude things.

Perceptions of female (and male) beauty change over time - from Rubens to the bizarre make-up of 1920's film stars to Twiggy. I must admit that I am more than happy with the current look, but if I'm in the minority then i'm sure that Adam Smith's invisible hand will stop wanking and shift things back your way.

Indeed Buttsie, Primal instinct is the greatest underlying force that makes us do what we do and like what we like. No if's, no but's, we as a whole are simply wired up to respond to certain stimuli. Because sex is one of the most basic of instincts adult entertainment producers in particular ignore those certainties at their financial peril.

Officer Dibble.

No, a lot of the British hot girls only did a fraction of the work that some of the girls you mention might have done. Which, as I explained in a reply to a post above, is probably one of the reasons why adult video buyers in general are not rushing out to buy their movies.

The situation is thus. Me 'n' my associates run amongst other things a girly video company. Punters occasionally write in to request more videos of certain girls. We still regularly get requests for more Teresa may, Vida Garmen, Louise Hodges, etc. The only one of the girls you mention that anyone has ever requested is Alicia Rhodes, who I can attest from seeing her starkers on my chaise lounge, is one of the closest things to a proper old time glamour girl I have seen in a while. If I were her manager I would be advising her to capitalize on that, glam-up as much as possible, and ration her hard-core exposure. Don't do just anybodies video and certainly don't do any that are 'to dirty' as this will ultimately diminish her credibility and desirability. She must build up an aura of mystique, of being 'special' not available to anyone to do anything, at the drop of a hat.

Why hark back to a by gone age? Well, as the article in the British Medical Journal suggests and as I have been explaining above the girls simply seem to have exhibited more feminine qualities and therefore appeared more attractive to me and the male population (and certainly the video and mag buying population) in general.

I don't need to drum up interest in old videos - they sell themselves. If I were to come across previously undiscovered shagging videos of any of the previous generation of glamour girls, the dollar signs in my eyeballs would be fair whizzing round and I would be a very happy chappy indeed. However, if I were to suddenly announce a new video starring any of the new generation it would be hard work trying to move it. Indeed some producers have learned their lesson and they are not shooting much at all nowadays - why bother when no one's gagging for it?

Officer Dibble.

I haven't read all the posts, but - at the risk of stating the obvious - this 'research' is a pile of shit! As the 'researchers' can't have gone back in time to measure the models, they must have relied on published figures. But who would be daft enough to take on trust the 'vital statistics' of glamour models?

You know what. I pondered on this and come to think of it theres some truth in it. Girls are defanitely getting bigger. The teenage girls of today have broader shoulders and are taller. Humans in general are getting taller and wider. Look at the tiny suits of armour in any castle and mind you dont bump your head going through a stone doorway designed for lanky bastards who were considered tall at 4'5" back in the old days.

I expect that by the year 2525(if man is still alive) we will be about twelve feet tall and completely hairless. Us forumites will all be dead by then thankfully.

Magoo (6 foot and happy with that)

If you read the article you will see that the researchers seemed to have much more comprehensive data that just the published stats available to them.

"Couldn't this mean that any changes are likely to be partly the result of what Playboy imagines will turn on readers."

This is an interesting question. Could producers, magazine editors and the like be so influenced by popular culture that they began to choose slimmer, less shapely models for their mags and productions, even though it could have a negative effect on the libido of male readers? This is most certainly true in the mainstream media. You see it everywhere. The covers of 'Lads Mags' on Top of the Pops, girls presenting the news, mainstream Hollywood stars. There is an underlying, political driven, trend towards androgyny. ?Hey, how can you take 'wimmin' seriously if they are all fluffy with big boobs, big bums and big hair?? Cry the middle classes. So they choose 'serious' looking 'wimmin' who they believe society will take seriously to front their mag covers, present the news, and star in their programs. And why do those birds on the covers of lad?s mags look so bland, un-stimulating and unexciting? Basically it 'cause they don't have tits and bums, but I believe there is a conscious effort on the part of the mag production teams to prevent them looking overtly sexual. The reasons they do this are economic and political - they don't want to lose ad revenue from big companies who are frightened off by sex and they don't want a load of grief from the likes of 'wimmin's' groups.

I'm afraid some adult magazine editors maybe influenced by these underlying trends in fashion and culture, though they may not realize it. This is where they are possibly going wrong, because sex is not subject to fads and fashions; it is what it is and is hard wired into us. If magazine editors and producers do not take into account the reality of what males find attractive in women, instead of trying to be fashionable, I'm afraid they could be heading for a tough old time. But in the case of Playboy I don't know if the editors been influenced by popular culture in choosing more androgynous looking women of late or if there are simply less and less hourglass type girls out there - probably a bit of both I would suggest.

Officer Dibble.