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I think there sir is your problem How can you class yourself as a credible director that can not command a fee for the contributors?

It is quite appalling to ask us to line your pockets. Tell the commissioning company to dig in their pockets and get a budget. Or maybe we should all adopt the tactics of free tv.

Hello ladies I am doing a movie soon. I will not pay you for getting fucked by ten men but it will be fantastic for your show reel to say you have worked with me.

Let me give you advice in production. If you do not pay people you will get a shit programme. Because any one worth filming won't do it for nothing. There is no publicity you can give us that we can not get ourselves. We are professionals and you insult us by thinking we are any thing less.

Blimey, I didn't expect a torrent of abuse. I am a one man band filming, editing and producing this off of my own back for a relatively new channel. Once I have hired a camera and editing equipment, there is just enough for me to pay myself a minimal wage.

If people don't want to participate fair enough, but please don't make assumptions that everyone in TV is cashing in off of other people's time and energy.

They're always cynical/scared of TV folks on here Mr. Air.

Apparently mainstream TV is always portraying the flesh industry to be this cruel, sordid, evil business and any outsider-looking-in is a clueless fool...Mainly because the majority of the industry are clearly terrified of ridicule and don't have the ability to paint themselves in a good light so therefore they attack anything that could expose the industry outside of their little clique.

Mainstream TV would be a good chance to show the nation that porn doesn't need to be such a taboo subject anymore, but they never think about it in that way.

And the insults you received before anybody even asked you questions regarding your motives/budget is a poor show.

Get over yourselves people...Strewth

Jim: "Is anyone else involved working for free?"

Air: "Once I have hired a camera and editing equipment, there is just enough for me to pay myself a minimal wage."

So the short answer is no! !laugh!

P.S. If there are any industry producers, models, camera operators etc... interested in working for nothing. I've got a ton of work I can put your way. !whistle!

Thanks for your messages that have been pretty mixed to say the least.
I just want to be clear that I am not looking to do some sort of negative expos?e on the industry.

One of the few subjects I am covering for example is on how the industry is suffering due to free internet sites and how music and Hollywood movies are getting publicity but pornography isn't.

I didn't anticipate the abuse that I would get following my initial enquiry but hopefully by clarifying my position, people might be more sympathetic.

Speaking as a director and editor and as someone who had experience of image coaching of people for tv in the early 80's, I can tell you, that it is possible for make the Queen herself look like a sleazebag if your mind-set is set with that intention.

TV producers, in general in this country, are unfortunately drawn from the genteel middle-classes. Like vultures they feed on the lower classes and any other group that they can sensationalise, in a detrimental manner. To their own class, they will offer a sympathetic and reverential representation.

So for example if a TV Producer was interviewing, Sir Norman Foster the architect, everything would be just right, the background, location etc, the style of questions, the lighting, the makeup and so on.

Now picture, if I (Jim Slip sleazebag in chief) was interviewed by the same producer, they would ensure the location looked sleazy, the lighting cruel, they would get cut-aways, of maybe a full ashtray, some rubbish in the kitchen etc. In other words, their whole mindset would be from the outset to portray me in a bad light.

This is why my advice to anyone offered a TV interview, is to ALWAYS refuse regardless of the topic and promises of"Publicity". Unless there is:

1/ A fat fee
2/ A fat fee and you have someone like me on hand to protect you from the bastards making you look and sound like shit!

All politicians have a media consultant on hand for exactly this reason.

Andagain wrote:
"Mainly because the majority of the industry are clearly terrified of ridicule and don't have the ability to paint themselves in a good light so therefore they attack anything that could expose the industry outside of their little clique"

i can only speak from a bridge with view I know and I hardly think this business is cliquey one bit. That is to suggest everyone in this business is in some state of harmony which I can guarantee you is not the case.

I'd like to think will help redress this idea that the business is always this way at all.

Aaron I looked at your site and you may well be honorable in your intentions but I can only say as an insider that when I attempted to do showcases on video that I was met with the same rejection and most people if not everybody knows me!!!!!

Audio interviews people are happy to do. Video where they will be seen is s different.

There is a long history of distrust between the industry and the media and not without good reason if you care to look through the archives and seen the results of the programmes.

I think its evident now with responses from some of the industrys luminarys that if people are going to be represented in anyway then they should be paid for the privilege.

Everyone knows that tv is not the way to promote yourself at all. Thats the same ruse Maxim and FHM use to get girls to pose for free while they make money off the sales of their High Street Honeys spin-offs.

In fact people would be better off doing this sort of thing for free with programmes like Sexcetera. At least they feature your site on the show and on their website.

I was stunned to find out that porn girls actually make more than page 3 girls!!!!!

As Marino said, usually those who are quick to do such things are not really representative of the industry but when they look bad it makes us all look bad.

I dont think these TV companys specificly have it in for us porn folk thinking we are rich already or thick. I think they have poor communication skills tho.
The offer of participating in a TV show for free if and only if u are going to get some kind of publicity to your target audience out of it is fair. I dont get paid when i help write articles for middleshelf magazines and neither does anyone else but they plug my sites.
If the person or people being asked to contribute have nothing to promote or the shows target audience is not the same as theirs then the offer is of no use to them. thanks but no thanks.

The trick is for the TV people to find the people who want free promotion and thats where there communiction lets them down. There are people out there screaming out from free publicity and these shows have there place in fitting that criteria.

Cant blame them for trying on here.