producer advice needed

[Bicycle Bum]

The only advice you need is to find out what kind of porn turns you on the most, and try to improve on those ideas. What turns me on the most are orgies, with plenty happening in the background as well as the foreground. I'd like to shoot a group of people going hell for leather in a dungeon with several cameras catching all the action, preferably with energetic performers who need no direction whatsoever. These scenes cost a lot though, due to the number of models, but you'd end up with 2-3 hrs of viewing. Anyway, I'm confident this kind of porn would sell well. There just isn't enough real orgy porn out there, conveying the right kind of atmosphere.

[one eyed jack]

Thats because they are hard to do Bicycle Bum..tryu and find a room full of people in the industry who dont have issues with each other to make this work is an Olympian task in itself.

[Darren L Morgan]

I apologise for calling it a "secret society" Ok, it's a password protected place just for producers.
In my opinion, i learn far more from the industry and what the industry needs from reading posts on here and various other forums, from fans, performers and critics.
Producers will always be biased with regards to their product, thats how it should be, they believe in what they are doing, and they believe they are doing it the right way. Talented individuals, but not team players, thats already been proven time and time again. So how can a "Producers Only Forum" full of individual talent help our industry?
I believe producers go along to feed their minds, listen to idea's thrown around the table by other producers, put their "Individual" touch on it, and hey presto! so im not saying its not worthwhile, it is, but call a spade a spade, there's no "Three Muskateers" about it, "all for one and one for all"

Yes, i really wanted an awards system in place, and yes, the lone ranger came in and F***ed that up! now its lost all credability and will always be seen as "fixed" The fans cannot vote for best performer or best film, ok, have a seperate "Fans" choice, but the only way is for a panel made up of producers, Performers, editors and fans to judge a shorlisted selection of scenes, movies etc.

Anyway, we all have our own opinions, there are some talented producers in the UK and a lot i regard as good friends, but the truth is, we are alone in our struggle for success in this industry, its unfortunate, but reality. If that has changed since i left then please tell me, because pulling together and trying to heal the damage that the UK industry has suffered would be something i would get on board with.

[Bicycle Bum]

How common is it for models to have issues with other models, and what exactly do you mean by issues?
I know it's perfectly normal for a girl to show considerable discrimination when it comes to having sex, but just how likely is it for a model to refuse to fuck someone in particular, or are girls more likely to have issues with other girls, rather than guys?
You know the old saying that you shouldn't work with children or animals, should that now also include pornstars?

[one eyed jack]

Wrong again Darren. its not a password protected place just for producers.

Its a site where the public could come to speak to the producers on all matters relating to the adult industry like the BGAFD is a fan base for the girls. Those same said fans couldve got information with regards producing direct from the producers.

It was agreed across the board why the producers only forum had to be password protected. I would have thought you would have known this having attended a couple of the early meetings.

Thing is, it seems the strongest critics from that association were the ones who didnt actually do anything to contribute to it. You didnt have to answer to any leadership so Im not sure what you meant that UKAP wasnt respondent to your ideas. I just went ahead and did my thing once everyone signed off and said yes. "Go to it" and thats precisely the problem. Not everyone mucked in or maybe they just didnt believe in what we were trying to achieve with the woes we faced producing product in our business.

The password protected forum was a means of us all being scattered across the country to relay and share information that certain forum users such as BGAFD members (no offence to the mods) wouldve hijacked and diluted the issue with petty attacks that made a lot of those producers not want to post on here in the first place.

Critics tend to view this privacy with suspicion when in fact the stuff we discussed would have bored most to tears.

The rest of the site was very much open to all and sundry. Having said that, why dont producers against this just actually go onto the forum and ask what others thought then? Including yourself?

I still dont get why the producers forum should be open to the public when the public could still post and ask questions on the forums available if they wished. I think people spent too much time dwelling on this and didnt bother ask the questions like: Why is UK porn so shit? Why this? Why that? UKAP welcomed all levels of producers from new amateurs to high end.

Seems to me the best place to get that answer would be a forum where a 3rd of the UK producers were resident than a fan base forum for the girls...or maybe the fans justpreferred having a moan with other fans and didnt really seek an answer to thier moans from producers.

The site was set up to centralise UK porn direct from producers but because of the heat generated many felt they couldnt be bothered to be part of the mudslinging because it got in the way of business.

Personally I like the mud slinging that went on. Theres no such thing as bad publicity but not many actually wanted to have contact with those who they didnt feel knew enough about the busines to help them

You cant make an omelette without cracking a few eggs as the saying goes.

I agree with you about one thing though. There was not enough solidarity for it to work and a large part of why the adult industry has gone to the dogs lies squarely with the producers in general. In and out of UKAP for having their lone sniper, mercenary attitudes toward the business.

[Darren L Morgan]

I cant argue with that Terry, you have tied me up from all angles...quote:

"Wrong again Darren. its not a password protected place just for producers"

Quote again"

"It was agreed across the board why the producers only forum had to be password protected"

What can i say...i know nothing....you have taken a "general" observation of my quote "its a pasowrd protected site for producers only" and made out i was talking out my rear end! and in fact i was talking about the "producers only" area of the site. I dont mind being made to look stupid, if i say or do something wrong then i deserve it, and i hold my hands up.
I am not worthy....i bow to the UKAP and all the good they are doing for our industry, i apologise a million times to ever doubt the "collective"

I'll get my coat!