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Its like comparing apples to oranges IMO

Speaking from experience Adultbouncer is far superior when it comes to Video by a country mile.Anybody that wishes to argue that point can bang their head against the brick wall over there

Adultcheck is superior in pic sites IMO

My overall opinion of Adult Check Regular not Gold is best summed up by the
exposure of AVS sites as a whole at this site
and doing a search under AVS and click on freenetpass.While it doesn't explore the adult check site from a to z it gives an excellent oversight of how these ADULT VERIFICATION SERVICES work

I count myself lucky that I signed up for a lifetime(15 years worth I believe) membership 3 years ago for USD75-00.Compare this to what they are charging today and it makes me wonder.They no longer have the british celebrity sites like (8000 pics 100/200 mpegs)but as with all modern businesses they find no problem in raising prices for less service or goods

Sharemarkets/Corporations have a lot to answer for

cheers
B....OZ

If it ever gets round to fixing its navigation and constant signing in it will be A OK site Adult Bouncer

How often are updates?

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B....OZ

varies - there's a section *new additions* which changes fairly regularly, and some sites such as moviehaven which update every week. i have noticed that some don't seem to update all that regularly.

my advice - give it a whirl, spend a bit of time mooching around, and see what you think. when i first had a look, there was loads of good stuff - its just a case of being prepared to a have a good look!

dukla

When I get a broadband connection it will be my first stop

I've been there before but with a 56k modem you'd need more than a year to download all the movies

As to the navigation I was thinking it could be divided into file size
Nothing worse when your on a 56k to get a site that only has huge files..download today..come back 2 days later
or if your on broadband all the files are small

cheers
B....OZ

There are two types of avs..

FREE.. supposedly but can cost the surfer from $39- $150 in hidden memberships to paysites and REAL AVS as Adult Check, CyberAge, Net Verifier, Adult Verifier and Pro Adult where the cost to the surfer is open to see.. There are no extras unless the surfer wants to pay for them !! So you cannot compare a FREE avs to a REAL one at all as x3guide have tried to do.

I'm glad you pointed out FNP as to me that is a prize example of where a surfer in my eyes gets conned because plain Joe Surfer doesn't read the small print and gets suckered.. I only work with the REAL avs and will never use a FREE one.

As for celebrity sites.... Perfect 10 magazine took legal action against AC last year as they held AC responsiblefor the content on a webmasters site. This court action set a precedent in that now the REAL avs require a webmaster to sign a form stating that all the content on their sites is legal and not stolen. The result of the court case cost AC a few million dollars in compensation and they and other avs dropped the "Celebrity" category for fear. Perfect 10 have also stopped the REAL avs using the names they call their models. If a webmaster has legal content with a Perfect 10 name he has to provide full documentation to verify this before the site will be activated.

I hope that clears up a few things regarding avs

Joe A wrote:

> There are two types of avs..
>
> FREE.. supposedly but can cost the surfer from $39- $150 in
> hidden memberships to paysites and REAL AVS as Adult Check,
> CyberAge, Net Verifier, Adult Verifier and Pro Adult where the
> cost to the surfer is open to see.. There are no extras unless
> the surfer wants to pay for them !! So you cannot compare a
> FREE avs to a REAL one at all as x3guide have tried to do.
>
Free AVS is free...at least to those that treat the 3 day tours with contempt and cancel straight away.I've never been charged

As for x3guide not being able to compare free avs to pay avs I disagree
The review is about content not fee structures

I'd argue the other way...free AVS is free to those that use their brains
where as pay avs costs you money for similar content

> I'm glad you pointed out FNP as to me that is a prize example
> of where a surfer in my eyes gets conned because plain Joe
> Surfer doesn't read the small print and gets suckered.. I only
> work with the REAL avs and will never use a FREE one.

I've been into freenetpass & sexkey and have never paid one cent due to reading the terms & conditions.It would seem that there are a lot of idiots keeping these free avs sites afloat


> As for celebrity sites.... Perfect 10 magazine took legal
> action against AC last year as they held AC responsiblefor the
> content on a webmasters site. This court action set a precedent
> in that now the REAL avs require a webmaster to sign a form
> stating that all the content on their sites is legal and not
> stolen. The result of the court case cost AC a few million
> dollars in compensation and they and other avs dropped the
> "Celebrity" category for fear. Perfect 10 have also stopped the
> REAL avs using the names they call their models. If a
> webmaster has legal content with a Perfect 10 name he has to
> provide full documentation to verify this before the site will
> be activated.

It was only a matter of time before someone spat the dummy over all the illegal use of material.Just a shame us punters are the ones that end up paying through non-access to previously accessible sites like
>
> I hope that clears up a few things regarding avs

As I always say 2 sides to any argument

For the record I have no commercial interests in anything relating to these services

cheers
B....OZ

If more surfers were like you then FreeNetPass and other so called FREE avs wouldn't exist... I commend you for taking full advantage of their "FREE FOR A LIMITED TIME" offers.

There are quite a few of us UK based adult webmasters who often meet up for a night out and we all have some scruples . Where I won't work with the free avs as I believe they're a con, one of the others makes a fortune from his sites which are as strong as Playboy is considered soft core these days..

Avs were started in the mid 90's as a way to stop minors from accessing porn freely. This has changed over the years as free sites, galleries and tgp's came on the scene. In the States a lot of changes are on the way. Where using a cc was once regarded as proof that the surfer was 18+ this is now no longer the case as some banks are issuing full cc's to 16 y.o.'s even though the person has no legal responsibility to repay any monies spent. I do work with a few of the avs as I've said before and a few of them very closely as I speak to the guys who run them on the phone once or twice a week and I can say that there are a lot more changes to come. Take a look at this article:

The way that porn on the net is going, the American government is slowly clamping down using back door methods and soon Europe will be the headquarters for a lot of US sites. Due to Visa in the States charging webmasters through their cc processors $750 to register and so be able to accept this card on their sites, a few processors and avs have moved their merchant banking to Europe where this fee doesn't exist...

Finally.. 99% of webmasters use legal content which they have bought and inceasingly, many more of us are now shooting it ourselves.. This costs us money so why should we let surfers have it all for nothing. Do you see video companies giving away their products