egafd.com

I kinda agree with you.

I've no problem with the wearing of the Burqa -or any other item of clothing- but when it comes to certain schools, banks, jobs etc etc, there are sometimes dress codes which should be respected (whether you agree to them or not).

I know for a fact that I cannot wear a baseball cap & trainers to a nightclub, or that if I work for Virgin Airlines I'll have to wear a red uniform. We take these things for what they are: dress codes.

Even if schools 'traditionally' made teachers wear burqas while teaching, it would be a stupid tradition, because how the hell is a child going to form a trusting, comfortable relationship with a teacher they've had for 4 years, and never seen that teachers face? How would that child know if a teachers praise is genuine, or that teachers dissapointment even? It de-personalizes a person if you're just seeing a pair of eyes. The children may as well be taught through a dictation machine......or a robot.

We all accept that if we don't want to conform to a particular dress code, for a particular job, then we don't take that job. We certainly don't take the job, then rebel against it's rules & regulations, only to take the employers to court, if we don't get our own way.

It's like a Buddist appying for a job in an abattoir, and then taking the abattoir to court because they're making him kill animals!!! Or a Sikh applying to be a Formula 1 driver and refusing to wear a crash helmet!! It's fucking crazy, and basically they're just taking the piss out of British freedoms, traditions and etiquette.

My friend of 24 years is a plumber. He has to take his safety boots off when entering a Mosque to fix the boiler, even though he'd be unable to claim any insurance if he then dropped the boiler on his feet, breaking his toes. He takes his shoes off because they ask him to, and he doesn't think twice about respecting their wishes. It's a natural -and polite- thing to do. Most of us would do it gladly, without even thinking. Imagine the uproar if he sat & had his break in the Mosque with his boots on, sat reading this months Razzle? It may be his tradition after all......

As for the Liverpool incident...........the attacker was a crazed pensioner! Maybe we should stop his 'cold weather payments' as a punishment?

c.j.jaxxon wrote:

> I'm not trying to accuse you of nothing, but you make it sound
> like the UK couldn't survive without slavery. Just as a note,
> the US ain't fairing any better!. They're practicing covert
> racism here.

We could have survived without slavery, but we'd be a less wealthy country. But the proceeds of slavery are obviously a less significant part of British wealth than American wealth.

Liverpool and Bristol in particular were built on the proceeds of slavery. I'm also told that Liverpool is the worst place in England for a non-white person to live.

[quote]I'm also told that Liverpool is the worst place in England for a non-white person to live.[/quote]

Liverpool certainly doesn't have a good record, but I don't know if t's the worst. It's probably a better place to live than Bagdad -pre and post war-, and most other Islamic nations, wouldn't you think? Especially if you're a Muslim woman anyway.

Sam Slater wrote:

> Liverpool certainly doesn't have a good record, but I don't
> know if t's the worst. It's probably a better place to live
> than Bagdad -pre and post war-, and most other Islamic nations,
> wouldn't you think? Especially if you're a Muslim woman anyway.

Yeah - to clarify, I've heard and read that, of the English cities, Liverpool has the worst issues with racism. It's also one of the poorest places in Britain. I'd rather live in Liverpool than war-torn Baghdad, but that's about it... of some of the Islamic places I've visited, I'd choose to live in Abu Dhabi, Istanbul or Tunis in preference to Liverpool.

Baghdad was (apparently) once a very cosmopolitan and pleasant city to live in, but probably not since the 1970s.

However you're wrong in saying "most Islamic nations". Of the 70 or so Islamic countries, only Saudi Arabia and Iran are deeply theocratic, and many are good places to visit and to live in. Islam tells its adherents to treat visitors kindly as guests, and in my experience Islamic countries are more friendly and welcoming to outsiders than European countries are. Of course this doesn't apply in war-torn places like Iraq and Afghanistan, but on the whole, Muslims get an unfairly bad press. It all went wrong for Arabs when the West got a taste for oil (approx 90 years ago) and we've not left them alone ever since.

Ermmmm.......I wouldn't take Iran over Liverpool, and aren't Algeria, Morocco, Tuinisia & Libya a little hostile with eachother? Kind of an uneasy peace? I'm sure Morocco & Algeria are in an 'unofficial' mini-war....... Something to do with a certain tribe who's land has been taken away and there are long chunks of 'no go' areas along it's borders?

Also we have Pakistan & Kashmir..........I'd take Liverpool over that area and probably half of Pakistan too. I've heard it's nice.............unless the local police take a disliking to you, then you're victims of protection rackets & daily beatings...apparently. Of course, if you just love bear baiting, then it'd be an exciting place to visit!

We then have terror elements in Egypt, Bangladesh & Malaysia, and aren't Muslim militants at loggerheads with the Thai government or something? I used to Thai box as a youngster and loved visiting Thailand, but I'd stay up north these days with the Buddists. Southern Thailand is a dangerous place because of the Muslim population.

Come to think of it...... we have Muslims arguing with Sikhs in India, Jews in Israel, Buddists in Thailand, and sluaghtering Christians in parts of Indonesia, Malaysia, New Guinea, & Cambodia, along with certain parts of Africa.

Is there anybody they're not at loggerheads with?

No! Ya don't say! But but but ain't Liverpool darn near the birth place of the Beatles and who knows what other artist came from there? The Stones will tell you to your face they were influenced by black artists.

There seems to be so many aspects of our culture, laws and way of life that they find 'offensive'. I would find it offensive if my children were taught by a woman wearing a veil or burqa. Apparently, this teacher did not wear her burqa at the interview for the job


Bukkake has ruined my carpet

c.j.jaxxon wrote:

> No! Ya don't say! But but but ain't Liverpool darn near the
> birth place of the Beatles and who knows what other artist came
> from there? The Stones will tell you to your face they were
> influenced by black artists.

Yeah - Liverpool's not all bad, I used to hang out there 20 years or so ago. The Beatles are cool, of course. The Stones are from London though.

IMHO CJ, Britain generally has better black/white relations than exist in the US. It's just that there are better places in Britain for black people to live than in Liverpool.

biffalo wrote:

> There seems to be so many aspects of our culture, laws and way
> of life that they find 'offensive'.

Thanks for repeating the same myth yet again, but if I wanted to read the same bollocks over and over again, I can read the Daily Mail. Name one British Muslim who says they find our laws, culture etc. offensive.