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There was a rather nasty feel about the Iraq business very early on. Various P2P sites were offering footage of Iraqi women being raped by US soldiers. Almost certainly, these would not be real---call it a fault, but I didn't really want to see for myself---but the fact there seemed to be a demand for such, particularly in the States, is worrying.

Atrocities committed against civilians while in uniform and acting under general military orders should receive the greatest punishment on the statute book. I don't believe in capital punishment, but if anyone deserved it then those US bastards who wiped out a family because they wanted to rape the 14-year-old daughter undoubtedly did.

There are other things to look at in these circumstances. Our government creates an army of people prepared to kill. Quite often, those who join the army are indoctrinated at an early and impressionable age to follow orders, and to back up their comrades. It only needs one charismatic bad apple to take a few others down with him. Check out the murder on Cyprus by British troops a few years back to see the proof of that.

I'm sorry to correct you, but Dizzy did not hijack the thread.

You see, the 'topic' of a thread is designated by it's title. So, the topic of this thread is 'Americans rewriting history'. I would class the English Language as part of history, and on occasions, Americans have indeed rewritten it.

THE PATRIOT was just a specific example of Americans rewriting history, and Mike would have only been justified in complaining about a thread hijack if the thread was specifically about THE PATRIOT. The thread is not specifically about THE PATRIOT, and if it was, Mike didn't make that clear when inserting the subject header.

The English English v American English debate was on topic. Respect.

As I understand [poorly, I suppose] military training, its primary aim is to
dehumanise 'the target'. Most humans are reluctant to kill another unless
they can be somehow 'persuaded' that the 'enemy' is in some way 'evil'
or 'subhuman'. Similar tactics are adopted for the non-combatants by
propaganda- as Orwell pointed out with his 'Hate Minute', this is childs'
play. To an extent [I'm thinking here of the enlisted men only] it relies on
stupidity or lack of education- and the Army has never been that keen on
subordinate 'freethinkers', although surprisigly enough, they did in about
'42 institute a series of lectures for servicemen entitled !"the British Way
and Purpose", admittedly with rather uncertain gains :- )].
I'd like to think that our Armed Forces have a slightly [and I stress
the adverb] higher basic morality which renders them less likely, but not
immune to, the commisssion of such horrors. The failure of senior British
officers to wholly and thoroughly discipline offenders such as the 'Cypriots',
even in our more tolerant times, is both self-defeating and cowardly.

I was correcting Mike, but informing you where Mike had 'got it wrong' when it came to hijacking.

Dude.

Oh, Christ. Grow up, the lot of you.
Wars have been started over less [irony- geddit, eh?]

Not only do they annoyingly rewrite history in the form of the Hollywood Blockbuster in the name of an easy dollar, the Americans also script the future and rewrite history before it has been made.

Just as they staged both Pearl Harbour and 9/11 to dupe the American people into thinking they have a justifiable case for war in pursuit of their agendas.

The Americans have long had us believe that JFK was taken out by a lone psychopath when, in retaliation for numerous assassination attempts on Fidel Castro, Cuba employed Lee Harvey Oswald to take him out. If the American people knew this brutal truth of the assassination leading all the way back to Havana there would have been a right-wing uprising in America that would have kept the Democrats out for at least 15 years and, based on the Missile Crisis a year previous, a nuclear war. To further suppress any chance of the real truth emerging, LHO was taken out and shot sharpish- and the lone nutter story was perpetuated.

(I am not saying I would have wanted a nuclear war!! !laugh!)

Americans- rewriting history and choreographing and stage-managing the present; suppressing truths and being the super-power it is, trying to control what we think and believe. Their propaganda may not be as direct and aggressive as the Nazis, but it is certainly subliminal and effective! I only mention the Nazis a I believe the current American Government is the modern-day equivalent.

Nowadays, in this day of 'information', what does/should/can one believe- when most of our information is tainted with some sort of bias or ulterior motive? Where are the objective, unadulterated facts?

Has there been any Hollywood remake of man landing on the moon? !laugh!

Man landing on the moon, back in 1969, used the best special effects of the time I hear.............

!wink!

Sorry, Fudgey, can't agree with you on who was behind the Kennedy killing. While not all the stuff in JFK is necessarily accurate, the route chosen, the speed of the car, the slight detour and various other aspects surrounding the visit to Dallas were all suspect---and none of them could have been orchestrated by Castro or the Cuban exiles or the mob.

CIA/Military Intelligence/Black ops all the way, with clearance from high enough up to get away with it.

Fair enough, we'll agree to differ.

I realise that Cuba had no control over the entourage and many other factors, but I believe Oswald was doing their bidding.

What, in your opinion, are the reasons behind a CIA/MilitaryIntelligence/Black ops assassination?