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As stated in Stone's film: the CIA embarrassed Kennedy over the attempted invasion of Cuba and he planned to either close them down or put them under more control. Since they are trained to deal with the enemy, and their president was now considered the enemy, it was time to execute him.

Check out a 1970s Burt Lancaster movie, Executive Action, for a view on how it was done.

Given the feelings about nuclear weapons at the time, and its proximity to the US, Cuban involvement in the assassination of the president would have been suicide.

All of this is pure speculation. It's unlikely we'll ever know what really happened. But the ones with the strongest motive for getting rid of Kennedy were the mob (RFK was justice secretary and was out for the organised crime bosses) and the military/intelligence communities. And the mob didn't have enough influence to arrange things so perfectly in Dallas.

Worth bearing in mind that most assassinations end with the assassin either dead or in custody in seconds. The first world war happened by accident. The people who should have killed the archduke missed, and his car went down a side street where another of the Black Hand group was waiting.

Dallas was just too perfect.
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"Cuban involvement in the assassination of the president would have been suicide."

It would have been suicide for Cuba, agreed- but in any nuclear standoff, I'm sure it would be suicide for any of the protagonists with America, and indeed the world, coming off very badly.

I'm thinking it's more of a cover-up, in order to avoid nuclear catastophe, as opposed to an internal agenda. As you note, there was a suspicious military-esque perfection about Dallas.

As you say- this is all speculation, and more's the pity when one realises that we'll probably never know what actually happened; indeed, as we know, this applies to so many matters as far as America or 'history' is concerned.

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Anyhoo, I really should be heading to bed!

Nighty, Carac- remember and cheer on the Scots on Wednesday evening, it's on Cooncil Telly!!

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Bear in mind, too, that Kennedy was the first Catholic president, and the WASP establishment was worried he might take orders from Rome.

Dallas, November 1963 is definitely in my top five must visits when I get a time machine---along with Judea circa AD30, and London at the time of Shakespeare.

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Somehow, I doubt that :- )

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Conspiracy-theorists WILL have their way, and there's no gainsaying them.
Logic and reason never come into it, do they?

While on the subject of the execrably self-interested, phenomenally arrogant
and totally overrated Kennedy 'clan', let's not forget that had Joe Kennedy
Sr. had his way the UK would have been left to rot under the jackboot whilst
the US negotiated a peace with the Nazis.

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PLEASE stop idolising the Kennedys.
The most overrated family in history, apart from our Royals.

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I'm not idolising the Kennedys, JJ. Joseph was a loathsome bastard, all three of his sons philandering shits, and all in all possession of Kennedy DNA just seems to lead to alcohol or drug addiction.

I hadn't thought about going forward in time, Warren. It'd have to be at least 300 years, so I wouldn't run into myself.
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Caractacus wrote:
> I'm not idolising the Kennedys, JJ. Joseph was a loathsome
> bastard, all three of his sons philandering shits, and all in
> all possession of Kennedy DNA just seems to lead to alcohol or
> drug addiction.
Wasn't aimed at you- I vaguely recall the odd Kennedy eulogy recently here
and thought here was a good opportunity to add some cold water.


> I hadn't thought about going forward in time, Warren. It'd have
> to be at least 300 years, so I wouldn't run into myself.
YOU??? Run !!!! ???
"Stop-press: 3-million-year-old Caledonian pensioner overtakes milk-float
in stolen zimmer-frame scandal", more like :- )

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