Page 3 of 3
Re: Real Names / Identities
Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:15 am
by Jacques
Pfft!!!
You've been watching 8mm again haven't you?
Re: Real Names / Identities
Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:53 pm
by Willie D
Nice to hear from you, DanG, how's it going....................
....(you know what's coming).......lol.
Re: Real Names / Identities
Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:54 pm
by Sam Slater
I'm confused........ well, confused about your reply anyway.
Some quotes of yours....
[quote]The nature of porn is porn is supposed to be offensive because otherwise it's NOT porn.[/quote]
[quote]When you have an industry based on being creating material that is going to offend people. Do you really think it's going to be gentle? Not slap you around from time to time?[/quote]
[quote]For every sex film(porn erotica) that earns a profit of $.01 an offensive one earns $100. And I'm not exagerating.
I don't like to slap girls around so I do it with controversy. Still if I wanted to be disgustingly wealthy I would have a girl fucked in the ass as some man beats her over the head with a baseball bat. I just don't have the stomache to do that.[/quote]
The original poster 'posted' concerning the publication of models 'real names' and 'personal details' etc. These details in the wrong hands could be dangerous to a model. Lets say we have a model called 'Lucy' and she's 19 years old........
Lucy enjoys sex....... Lucy enjoys starring in 'sex films'....... Lucy trusts her employers........ Lucy has her details publicised....... Lucy has a few wierdo fans......... Lucy's wierdo fans have her address (or at least have less effort to find the info)....... Lucy gets followed........ Lucy gets raped......... Lucy cries herself to sleep and feels ashamed.......
Theres a crazed bible basher........ he also finds Lucy's details....... He feels angry at her work......... He's doing Gods work (supposedly)...... He follows Lucy........ Lucy gets her throat cut for her sins.........
Ok....so you get the point yet?
What the f*ck does pushing the bounderies of porn have to do with a models safety? Oh yeah I forgot........Porn isn't for wimps right?
Personally I wouldn't be able to 'get off' watching a girl being beaten over the head with a cock up her arse though I'm intelligent enough to realize someone.....somewhere, might. I used to Thai-Box for 19 years so have taken a few beatings, but it was my decision. I enjoyed the brutish sport! This takes me to the idea that if a girl doesn't mind being beaten over the head with a cock up her arse then thats her decision. Basically she's dumb enough to take it (see my post about Nat Heck getting throttled by a cripple) so what can we do?
However....
Maybe 99% of model releases don't state you can't give out a models real name, but I doubt a judge would overlook the 'common sense' factor throughout all of this regardless of what the model release says.
It surprises me that though you seemingly have 'years of experiance' you seem to have a total disregard towards a models privacy and safety. In your post you seemed to drift off on a 'pushing the bounderies/free speech' pursuit moving away from the original posters comments altogether.
Maybe its me but do you think then that it's fine to put a young girl in danger?
Re: Real Names / Identities
Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:58 pm
by Kelly Steele
Sam Slater wrote:
> I'm confused........ well, confused about your reply anyway.
>
>
> The original poster 'posted' concerning the publication of
> models 'real names' and 'personal details' etc. These details
> in the wrong hands could be dangerous to a model. Lets say we
> have a model called 'Lucy' and she's 19 years old........
>
> Lucy enjoys sex....... Lucy enjoys starring in 'sex
> films'....... Lucy trusts her employers........ Lucy has her
> details publicised....... Lucy has a few wierdo fans.........
> Lucy's wierdo fans have her address (or at least have less
> effort to find the info)....... Lucy gets followed........ Lucy
> gets raped......... Lucy cries herself to sleep and feels
> ashamed.......
>
> Theres a crazed bible basher........ he also finds Lucy's
> details....... He feels angry at her work......... He's doing
> Gods work (supposedly)...... He follows Lucy........ Lucy gets
> her throat cut for her sins.........
>
> Ok....so you get the point yet?
>
> What the f*ck does pushing the bounderies of porn have to do
> with a models safety? Oh yeah I forgot........Porn isn't for
> wimps right?
>
> Personally I wouldn't be able to 'get off' watching a girl
> being beaten over the head with a cock up her arse though I'm
> intelligent enough to realize someone.....somewhere, might. I
> used to Thai-Box for 19 years so have taken a few beatings, but
> it was my decision. I enjoyed the brutish sport! This takes me
> to the idea that if a girl doesn't mind being beaten over the
> head with a cock up her arse then thats her decision. Basically
> she's dumb enough to take it (see my post about Nat Heck
> getting throttled by a cripple) so what can we do?
>
> However....
>
> Maybe 99% of model releases don't state you can't give out a
> models real name, but I doubt a judge would overlook the
> 'common sense' factor throughout all of this regardless of what
> the model release says.
>
> It surprises me that though you seemingly have 'years of
> experiance' you seem to have a total disregard towards a models
> privacy and safety. In your post you seemed to drift off on a
> 'pushing the bounderies/free speech' pursuit moving away from
> the original posters comments altogether.
>
> Maybe its me but do you think then that it's fine to put a
> young girl in danger?
>
>
Blah blah blah...
Is there a special factory that manufatures these types of trolls.
Ok buddy, f you want a calm and rational adult conversation. We can do that too. But if you don't like the way I answered it... Well that is certainly your right.
Now on the other hand, I've fucked a few people with my hockey stick since comming to this country. So if you are looking to pick a fight, I can safely say most in the UK Jizz Biz have figured out that I'll be more than happy to oblige. Therefore if you want to be added to the list of people I've bitch-slapped for being idiots, you are free to take your best shot. Just don't act surprised when strike back.
I can give as good as I get. And if you insist on making unfounded allegations saying I don't give a shit about talent or their safety. Well let's just say this can get interesting real fast.
Now, for the record....
What exactly is it that you do in the porn industry?
Are you Talent?
Do you produce videos?
Distribute?
A webmaster?
Or are you just some guy, from outside our industry, that likes to see women have sex.
Re: Real Names / Identities
Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 5:23 pm
by Sam Slater
Thank you for the reply. It really put me straight on a few things and I'll never ever question you again. I now know that 'you know best'. (I'm being sarcastic).
Since you've insinuated that I'm an idiot and a troll, I should really not bother answering your questions about me. However being a polite and friendly 'son of a bitch' I'll happilly answer!
[quote]What exactly is it that you do in the porn industry?[/quote] Answer: Nothing
[quote]Are you Talent?[/quote]
Answer: See above
[quote]Do you produce videos?[/quote]
Answer: See above
[quote]Distribute?[/quote]
Answer: See above
[quote]A webmaster?[/quote]
Answer: See above
[quote]Or are you just some guy, from outside our industry, that likes to see women have sex.[/quote]
Answer: Depends on the woman really...
There you go, I answered your questions politely without any insinuations or name calling. Now a few of my own if thats ok?
Do you care about talent having their personal details being publicised for all & sundry? Even if it can be potentially dangerous to the model?
Are you really a guy posting in a wifes/partners name? (*I'll give my reasons for asking this)
Why do you suddenly become hostile towards anyone whom dissagree's with you?
*Women usually pick up on peoples worries, and the safety of others more quickly than men as it's a genetic thing. We men are more confronational and less intune with other peoples feelings, thus can come across as uncaring. You come across as a guy through your postings.
Re: Real Names / Identities
Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 6:47 am
by videokim
The 2257 rule has changed things in British porn for the worse as a lot of amateur models just like to give a mickey mouse name so it protects their identitys etc, with this silly American ruling models data is there for everyone to see so it just pushes it all back underground again & years of getting models confidence as gone in a shot.
I advise any models doing Pro shoots to get as much info on the producers as they can & check them out first, we as editors/producers get films off various people to author etc & with it comes all the identitys etc in with the photo's where people don't think.
This is too sick a world for models details to fall into the wrong hands, stalkers etc so its time the British industry had the backbone to tell America where to stick this intrusive ruling.
Kim xxx