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Re: Chelsea boy speaks
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:34 pm
by jj,
In a year's time he still wouldn't be able to do shite, not with Inspectors everywhere: and I doubt he'll still be there then anyway.
Yes, we should have finished the 'job' in 1991, but then the UN mandate didn't allow it- it does now, see 'serious consequences', their code for military action. So Chirac can piss and moan all he wants- his grandstanding won't change anything, except to make War inevitable rather than merely possible.
Re: Chelsea boy speaks
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:01 pm
by Wink Wink
It's a pity that the people of Iraq do not have to guts to remove him from power thus saving themselves a war which one would hope will be quick & without too much human suffering.
Re: Chelsea boy speaks
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:03 pm
by magoo
The main interest for the west in 1991 was to protect the Kuwaiti oil reserves and to prevent him getting his hands on Saudis oil also.
Anyone who thinks that The West cared about the people of Kuwait is wrong. Alll this crap from Blair and Bush about how nasty Saddam was by gassing his own people etc is a smokescreen. Where were we when Saddam was actually gassing people? We did nothing to prevent it and we supplied his weapons. The USA and Britain were happy to turn a blind eye to that and infact helped arm Saddam because we backed him in the war with Iran. If America wanted to take action against regimes that breach UN resolutions they would not be so defensive of Isreal who frequently breach UN Resolutions and have very little respect for human rights. Saudi has a bad record on human rights too but the West is very selective about which dictators it chooses to criticise. Notice how quiet Bush has been about the sabre rattling from North Korea. He will leave them alone because they have nuclear weapons unlike Iraq who only have a few pea-shooters.
Also the West did nothing to prevent the huge genocide in Ruwanda a few years back (which left more dead than Hitlers genocide). Cynics might think that the west didnt get involved because there was no oil at stake. We were also fairly late in sorting out the trouble in Kosovo.
The west is at serious risk from terrorism from Al Qaeda. We should be concentrating on that instead of Iraq who afterall have never targetted us.
Re: Chelsea boy speaks
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:08 pm
by magoo
Its not a question of them not having the guts Wink Wink. After ten years of sanctions they dont have the strength to get rid of him.
Re: Chelsea boy speaks
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:12 pm
by Wink Wink
Yes Al Qeada is the biggest threat to the R.O.W. They have proved that they will do anything no matter what for the sake of "their cause".
The recent arrests of leading members means nothing, they will be replaced by other people.
Re: Chelsea boy speaks
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:14 pm
by steve56
they are all fanatics in my book
Re: Chelsea boy speaks
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:21 pm
by magoo
And surely a war in Iraq will increase the amount of fundementalists all over the world prepared to attack us? Its hardly going to help defeat terrorism is it?
Re: Chelsea boy speaks
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:21 pm
by Wink Wink
Logic says that if they get rid of him sanctions & a attack by a heavily armed force will not happen. Perhaps they live in fear of him & his henchmen?? I just hope that when we go in it's not another situation like in the Baltic where we are still having to have personnel years later.
Re: Chelsea boy speaks
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:23 pm
by magoo
You mean Balkans not Baltic I think.
Re: Chelsea boy speaks
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:24 pm
by steve56
it just escalates like the irish problem that took yrs to resolve,ithink im gonna be in trouble for that one but you know me im outspoken.