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I knew some mates at my school who claimed to have been laid at 12, and I DO believe them. If your a male virgin past 16 in HK, there's SOMETHING wrong!!

well i was 22,it was in 1980.

Cheers bro.
Your post was just fine!
What am I? A Colin wearing anorak freak...er don't answer that;)
I don't know anything about him dropping dead thru sex.
Where did you come across that...excuse the pun.
I know he was at Betty Ting Pei's apartment, under the banner of discussing G.O.D.
As for sex, it would have been hard pushed as Bruce was meant to be meeting that devious old slag Raymond Chow & 1 time Bond George Lazeny at a resturant to further discuss G.O.D.

And just for Steve, think of Oxford Street on Xmas rush hour. Now imagine Hong Kong day to day.
It's busy as hell with cheaper and tastier food.

ace when was all that in relation to the interview on channel 5 last night in which he SEEMED fairly consciencious and 'grounded' ....do u mean he got an ego and thought he could do nething thus tried drugs or are u meaning pressure etc....either way seems a bit sad cos the family image was q. nice also didnt kno he got particularly famous before his dead but then i dont kno a lot newaY:D

Most of what you see in films of Hong Kong, ie Man With A Golden Gun etc was filmed at 06.00am.
The Betty Ting Pei is well known Holden, its the 'chinese whispers' (parden the piss poor pun) that he was being entertained by Chows starlets.
Raymond Chow is a devious bastard, a very cynical and nasty bastard. Imagine a Chinese David Sullivan/Michael Winner and you're close.
Incidently Holden, one place where I lived in HK is shown on GoD (The 1978 piss poor affair) Where 'Bruce' etc are on the hydrofoil from HK to Macau. You see the area called Kennedy Town and Pokfulam. 'Our' appartment block is the tall (20 stories) white block under a massive hill.
My brother stayed in HK till 1984, and gambling is illegal, so a 'casino' was built in his schools gym, (as it was cheaper than going to Macau to film) in the Chuck Norris film 'Forced Vengeance' and Chuck mingled with the pupils signing and posing for them. A VERY nice and decent bloke by all accounts. He wouldn't be drawn on the rumour he actually beat Lee in a fight.

Bruce was fast......very fast and was the 'first', so he will always be remembered, but I think Chuck Norris (5 times world Karate champion) was better. Lets face it, Bruce was a fighter cum movie star who didn't fight for titles. Norris who is a shit actor, did fight in full conatct (shotakan) combat

You can also see Jackie getting his neck broken in Enter The Dragon in the underground cave fight scene.

Jackie did 2 bits in FoF. One was as a student in the school and the other was to double the bad guy getting kicked out of the screen window at the end of the fight.

As for the best MA.
Hard to say. The most prolific, yes but dunno bout the best.
Plenty of people were not in a position to have that limelight to prove themselves and a lot don't care a shit for proving, so it's hard if not impossible to say.
Definately an MA icon though.

Dunno about Gracie being better though.
What about Al Dacasocs, Marcs dad?
There are way too many good fighters out there to be honest.
Hwang Jang Lee is also a hardcore fighter. Played lots of bad guy roles.
Killed a soldier out in 'Nam by giving him a roundhouse to the head. Soldier had a knife and challenged Hwang.

Hwang & Bruce were meant to have a real life fight but the cops stopped it.

Chuck better than Bruce???!!!
You are seriously having a luagh bro!
Chuck sucks!
Bearded, hairy, no talent man bitch.

The fights Bruce had were real life encounters. Chuck did competitions!
Being 5 times World Champ is nothing as MA's have a huge politics problem.

Once upon a time, I won a competition and had a title bestowed upon me.
I was chuffed to bits, til someone took me aside and said "Chill out son as there are 100 others who hold the same title, only in different weight categories, different styles and most importantly, different organisations."
Kinda killed it for me within seconds.

Being 5 times WC really doesn't mean shit bro. Seriously.
Chuck was pretty heavy and fought in hisw own weight group.
As a competition fighter, I guess he was ok. But certainly not better than Bruce.
Bruce ended up teaching Chuck for a while.

I'd say that Gary Daniels, another who took it to the screen could have pulped Chuck any day of the week. Gary won loads of titles as well.

As for Shotokan. Biggest load of shit ever. Karate as a whole is bollocks. The origins of the art have been lost for a long time and what is taught in the west is a total con.
Perhaps Goshin & Tenshin have some effect but even then I absolutely hate Karate and all that it represents.
Stodgy, solid and way too rigid with no room for errors.

Ok, I hold my hand up and admit I was talking out my arse


(See Steve 56........if I can do it, so can you)