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I spotted* him on Newsnight and wondered who the oily greasy toady Tory git was- then realised he was Millipede. Oops.

[*He had lots of spots, you see....]

........if you factor in the costs of trying to shore up/replace the communities lost (usually a futile exercise), and all the vandalism/crime that has resulted in much waste of police time, along with the massive Benefits paid out, and the cost of importing coal (not as 'cheap' as people think) and sourcing energy elsewhere, it doesn't even make balance-sheet sense.
So, a failure in any terms you care to cite...........
Put simply, Thatcher did more damage to this country than the Luftwaffe and Field Marshal Haig combined.

Bruce Barnard wrote:
> I?m not the type to eulogise my working class brethren, given that the
> vast majority of them could instantly improve their lot by picking
> up a book or visiting a library.
I've made the point before that a lot of these communities had a strong self-improvement ethic- which was of course, destroyed along with those communities........

> Back to Dibble's original point:
> You?ll find most people have more respect for the hard working geezer
> down the road who works for minimum wage and drives a battered
> Fiesta.
Indeed.

While I disagreed with the massive job cuts the strike was a dark time in modern British history. Where I live in Cumbria it had little or no impact but wounds still run deep in many communities.

The positive outcome was the destruction of the communist bastard known as Arthur Scargill. Scargill was an enemy of this country and rumoured to be in the pay of the KGB. He was a dinosaur and the Uk is better of without him and far left trade unions.

jj, I think there is much truth in this.

But Thatcher had a relatively easy job of it as her leading opponent was Arthur Scargill, all too easy to demonise and dislike, and his appalling part in this fiasco has been very neatly summarised by magoo.

True, without Scargill, and with a mandate for strike-action, then things might have been very different. Gormley's PR-savvy and the preceding would have probably polarised public opinion sufficiently for Thatcher to have to back down.

Heathray wrote:
> Scargill was..........a dinosaur and the Uk is better of without him and far > left trade unions.
True: but dinosaurs eventually become extinct. It wasn't necessary to instigate a Civil War to get shot of him.