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Re: Daniel Bedingfield's Sister??

Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:05 pm
by Rude Boy
Oh yes I have the "In The Flesh" dvd and it's supremely brilliant as you'd expect from RW and includes some unexpected but wonderful tracks such as the brilliant "Dogs."

I enjoy moments from all the Roger solo albums but my pick would have to be "Amused To Death." I think that on this album he finally found a musical foil to replace David Gilmour in the shape of Jeff Beck who is in sublime form throughout. I think that "The Ballad Of Bill Hubbard" is an amazing piece of music that only Roger Waters could have penned, to call it "Haunting" is an understatement.

I'll also always have a special fondness for "Radio KAOS" too as I saw RW play a show at Wembley on that tour and me and a mate managed to get tickets for the front row, dead centre...right in front of Rog, fucking belter!

Afterwards we shot off to the backstage car park and waited for Roger to emerge (We were only 16 at the time!). We saw him get into a limo' which drove out of the car park and then sped right past us and a few other people...gutted.

Imagine our buzz when the brake lights came on, then the reverse lights as the limo' pulled up to where we were stood and Rog got out and signed our programmes for us, top man! It was like having your programme signed by God.

After one of the Docklands gigs in '88 I managed to nab Nick Mason for an autograph and a chat and he was pretty cool too.

Oddly I always shit myself when I get the chance to meet a celeb' now and end up blowing my chance. Not that long ago I was in one of the big bookshops on Charing Cross Road in London and noticed David Bowie browsing, I tried to think of some witty remark to impress him with but blew it and ended up walking past him, content to just feature in his peripheral vision for a moment or two.

Re: Daniel Bedingfield's Sister??

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 4:43 am
by steve56
the tracks were billed as you gotta be crazy[dogs],raving and drooling[sheep] .

Re: Daniel Bedingfield's Sister??

Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2004 6:05 am
by Arnold Layne
Yes they were the early versions of the animals tracks Steve, which were called that when first performed live in 74/75 shows, the lyrics being slightly changed when recorded for the album, incidently, the great song "Echoes" was called the following at times

Looking through the knotholes in grannys wooden leg (I have a tape from a 71/72 show where Roger introduces it as this!)

We won the double

The march of the dambusters

& theme to an imaginary western!

Glad they decided on Echoes, lol!


Re: Daniel Bedingfield's Sister??

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 10:15 am
by Arnold Layne
Hello again RB, right here's a bit on info on 1987 bootys featuring complete shows including Echoes

16/9/87 - Cleveland municipal stadium, Ohio, USA
also featured on the 3CD set, "Echoes by the lake", the only 87 tour cd to feature Echoes & One slip, audience recording, rated at EX

19/9/87 - JFK stadium, Philadelphia, USA
Echoes (intro missing) 18:23, on the CD hand of fate, but high generation, tape hiss, far better low gen recordings are out there

A rehersal video also exsits (amateur) which features a complete echoes!, with Rick on piano! and brief excerpts of other songs from the tour, performed in a military aircraft hanger! I'm sure I can source this as well if you have problems, quality is generally pretty good, audio tapes exsist as well, but are just dubbed from the video

There is a video officially shot of the Omni Atlanta 5/11/87 outtakes which were never used, although it dosen't feature echoes, there's a lovely version of On the turning away on there, which can also be found on the CD single release of One slip I think!

there is also the triple lp set a new machine, which is shit, trust me, a well know member of the brain damage floyd fanzine ripped me off with this when I very first started collecting, assuring me it was quality, luckily I didn't bump into him at the 94 convention the twat.

Best to go to google, and enter pink floyd bootlegs, the first entry is the roio database, tons of useful info on there, I also have some audience recordings somewhere, although like I mentioned earlier a hell of a lot got stolen , so if you get stuck, please post on here, and I will get in touch direct if that's ok, I can't post my e mail on here any longer due to certain psycho's out there! lol


deep purple in rock

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 10:18 am
by steve56
this lp is a must i had the scatchy lp yrs ago its worth getting for the bonus tracks too.

Re: Daniel Bedingfield's Sister??

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:20 pm
by Rude Boy
Thanks for the info', yes there's nothing more annoying than a shit quality bootleg is there? Likewise getting hold of a little gem is quite a thrill, aaah those teenage days spent at Record Fairs in Cambridge with other collectors/anoraks...those were the days! I never bother going to them anymore as it's always just second hand stuff now, the traders with all the cool live stuff never turn up anymore in case they get busted.

The worst Floyd bootleg I bought was from a Knebworth gig in 1975, the sound is totally crap and it sounds as though the band were plagued by technical hassles. The best were the "Animals" era ones and some absolute beauties from the "Atom Heart Mother" era which are brilliant quality.

I've got a great book somewhere which lists all the PF gigs and setlists, I think it's called "In The Flesh." A bootleg trader once told me that Led Zep' are the most collectable band and it's rumoured that tapes exist of every gig they ever did and some fanatics try to collect every show. They even know at which gigs Jimmy Page was "In the arms of Morpheus" so to speak which resulted in his playing being particularly laid back and fluid, adding new dimensions to live versions of songs like "Since I've been loving you."

I doubt there are any hobbies which are as rewarding as being a music fan, there's the albums to collect, the bootlegs, the books to read, the gigs to attend, the merch' to buy....even "Action Figures" if you like Kiss! It can be expensive but it's peanuts compared to being into fancy cars for example.

Right, I'm off to find out what gauge strings Geezer Butler used on the "Born Again" tour! This shit is important!!

Re: Daniel Bedingfield's Sister??

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:40 am
by Arnold Layne
Yes I don't think a great sounding Knebworth 75 tape exsists, then again I could be wrong, I had the one were Roy Harper guested on vocals on Have a cigar, but as you rightly say sound is pretty shiser.
There's some great 70's boots out there my friend, I'm sure you have most of em! like I said if I can ever help a fellow fan please let me know.
Montreaux Jazz festival 1970 is an excellent boot from that era, great sound as well, CD boots on the swinging pig label (are they still about?) are some of the best I've heard, Best of tour 72 (Early DSOTM set from Rainbow theatre, (yes a well known, easily available boot but apparently they used the "no noise" system to remove his, clicks etc, and it sounds the best on here I've ever heard) One of these days (paris theatre 71) Libest spacement monitor (playhouse theatre 70) and welcome to the machine (a great wywh soundboard) are worth checking out if you can still find em, Camden market I always found to be the best place, if it's still there, the market by the canal, go down into it (not the canal! lol) chuck a left and go into the underground bit, right at the very end, in the corner used to be a great boot stall, lots of interesting stuff! I'd like to know if he's still there! My fave boots of all time (PF) have to be earls court 73 (with obscured by clouds as an opener!) a pretty good sound quality tape exsists if you can find it, and Ivor Wynne 75, great stereo speration in parts on this boot as well, most of these can easily be found on CD now. Brighton dome 72, the first ever live performance of DSOTM as "Eclipse" notable as the equipment blows up or something halfway through the first set! so this was never the first "complete" performance! but they still play on, the troopers!, sound quality on this tape as well is surprisgnly good! anyway mate I hope you find this info useful!


Killer boot...rediscovered

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:24 am
by Rude Boy
Because of all this great stuff about PF bootlegs I dug out a cd boot I've not listened to in ages..."The Knebworth Tales 90." I was at this gig but the audience was so vast (200,000 plus if I remember right) that I had a fairly average view etc and I'd had to listen to some total crap acts before the mighty Floyd came on as headliners.

This boot' brought it all back to me, "Shine On.." with the sublime Candy Dulfer adding the amazing saxophone solo, the best version of "Sorrow" I've ever heard with a solo from DG that will take your head off and a version of "Money" that is right on the...eeer cash. DG is in scorching form throughout. I've got to dig out my "Animals" era tapes now for a trip back to 1977....."Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland awaaaaay."

Re: Killer boot...rediscovered

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 6:51 am
by Arnold Layne
Yes Knebworth is from a rather excellent FM radio broadcast, wasn't Claire Torry also there for vocals on GGITS? also another bitta info 4 u, check out Roger Waters Radio city music hall, 84, it was the one I mentioned that was broadcast in holophonic sound, RW also gives an introduction on this as well, don't settle for nothing other than a low gen tape on this mate, a complete gig as well, yes I was blasting Anaheim stadium 77 last night through my "cans", Gilmour blows yer head off during Pigs (three different ones!)


Re: Killer boot...rediscovered

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 12:13 pm
by Arnold Layne
C'mon now RB it's time to start another thread mate! Led Zep boots! lol