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Yeah, that's exactly what I do whenever I hear the guy's name mentioned for the thousandth time as if he was Jesus Christ or something....YAWN!!!!!

What the hell has football or being the brother of a footballer got to do with the cause of Anthony Walker's murder?

It hasn't because I'm not responsible for what my brother does and vice versa and nor is Joey Barton.

You are entitled to your opinion on football the same as everybody else but don't get sidetracked on it.

Thank you. At least you didn't flame me. What I was trying to point out was that the career of footballer, on the whole, is used by certain types that haven't got the intelligence to do anything else. In other words, it's an escape from the inner city slum for those that don't want to be used as cannon fodder in the Army (another escape route used by the uneducated or simply thick) by the government in order to escape poverty (a.k.a. they're not very smart upstairs). This shows, I believe, in how they act in society (becoming drunken bums, vandals, beating up on ethnic minorities etc. etc.).

No offence out there, but because of his obvious "bad educational background", Best had no idea on how to use his money (gained through no real intellectual means) as a tool. Instead, as he gained it the easy way by kicking a ball around a field, he simply used it as, not only a weapon to get what he wanted by attracting women (how vulgar!) buying NHS privileges (that liver would have gone to someone more deserved if it wasn't for him using who he was to get it) and justice (did he ever get done for beating up his partners?). I'd wager that if it wasn't for football, Best would have rotted away in some council block years ago; either that or he would have been locked up for being a drunken violent bum who had no thought for anyone except himself. And would everyone have sung his praises then, if he hadn't been good at kicking a ball around, if he'd just boozed and beat women around? I think not.

And why I brought the murderer of that black kid up is because you can see a mile away that the "thing" came from the same psychological background as Best (low educational prospects brought on by low IQ levels).

And no, no one should make the excuse that they were/are like they are simply because of a poor background, because some of the richest, intelligent and most upstanding members of society came from a poor background. No , I put it all down to genetics. Those types don't have the grey matter to do anything else with their lives. Only a tiny few with their psychology will make anything of themselves (mostly through kicking a bag of air round a field, or by becoming government cannon fodder in the Army), the rest will remain the gutter trash of society (like the ones who murdered the black kid).

So, what I'm saying is that the only difference between George "boozed up wife beater" Best and the granny basher thug in the street, is that he could kick a football around a field and into a net. After all, he proved time and time again that he wasn't anywhere near the sort of rich person as say Bill Gates, was he? Whilst Bill Gates and intelligent people like him have the IQ to be worthy of being rich, George Best was simply a drunken violent bum with money.

Oh yes, I totally agree about the fact that an intelligent person can fail just as much as a thick person, but they do fail for totally different reasons (class prejudice, disabilities, bullying by the aforementioned low foreheads, ethics, or simple bad luck).

about fucking time

A longtime lurker, so to speak, but that one post has driven me to register!

I'm from east Belfast, am a Manchester United and Northern Ireland fan; by no means an expert on the life of George Best, however there are so many generalisations or downright inaccuracies in your post Mojo that I feel the need to rebut them.

Firstly George Best did not come from a 'bad educational background.' He passed the 11+ in the 1950s (undoubtedly a much tougher proposition than that which I sat in the late 80s,) went to a grammar school for a year, then left for the local Secondary so he could play football (Grosvenor like the majority of grammar schools in Northern Ireland being a 'rugby school'.) So he didn't have 'low educational prospects brought on by low IQ levels' (for what very little that's worth in this debate and do you even know George Best's IQ? Is it on record anywhere?)

Your lack of understanding or awareness of alcoholism (a physiological addiction) is astounding. John Hurt, Anthony Hopkins, Winston Churchill, Eugene O'Neill, Dylan Thomas, Edgar Allan Poe and F. Scott Fitzgerald- guess what they all have/had in common? Right first time, they are/were alcoholics. Alcoholism respects no social or economic boundaries or even IQ levels (or any others you care to think of. )

As well as being an alcoholic George Best also shared a genius, an artistry with the above-mentioned. That's what I (and many others) were remembering on Saturday.

So, Mojo, get out there and have a look around at the world you live in, where things aren't so cut and dried, where edges blur and where people don't necessarily 'rot away in a council block' just because they happened to have been born and grew up in one. You never know, you might even thank me for it someday.

hi franko;you left out richard burton;peter o toole .

At best your comments are boring Mojo at worst they are just ignorant and stupid.