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I would love to quote official documents mart. Unfortunately 'official' documents are usually heavily edited to appear things aren't as bad as they seem.

This is the norm mart. We have it with educational success rates, health waiting lists, crime, unemployment figures, and also immigration figures. It's to keep the 'people' happy I suppose, which keeps the government in power. This happens across the globe, whether you live under a dictatorship or democracy.

We have the bigoted idiots, who want all the immigrants kicked out, as if it's the end of the world, on one side, and all the left wing loonys, who want to give the asylum seekers so much help, that the UK becomes a big 'disney world' to them, on the other side.

I'm sort of in the middle. I like living amongst different cultures, as it enriches the society we live. Immigration also boosts the economy, and if it helps their own personal situation, while they contribute to the nation, then I'm all for it. What I'm against is seeing families working 68 hours a week to make ends meet, and these families watching asylum seekers on their mobile phone 5 hours non stop, calling back home to family, calling for prostitutes to come around. Seeing these same asylum seekers get on public transport for free, while the British family has to pay. Seeing the asylum seekers children 'taxied' to school, while 'your own' children have to stand in the rain, waiting for the bus.

Apparently asylum seekers only get ?40 a week whist they cannot work. How do they pay their electricity, gas, water, food, transport, clothing, mobile phone bill, local 'weed' dealer, 40 fags a day habit, and prostitutes, (whist visiting nightclubs at weekends) on ?40 per week?

BNP style supporters think it's the end of traditional British society. The government says there's no problem. The fact on the street is that both are lying. The facts on the street say that life is easier -in the UK- if you're an unemployed asylum seeker, than an unemployed British citizen.

Who's going to publish the real facts for people to see, if they're afraid of being labelled 'racist'? It's no wonder finding official proof is so hard to do.

Living in the UK supposed to be the first step up the ladder to a better life for these people. What's happening on a regular basis is that while the traditional British families are climing up those same steps to a better existance, the asylum seekers are taking the elevator.

Sam, what I'm questioning is remarks like "What I'm against is seeing families working 68 hours a week to make ends meet, and these families watching asylum seekers on their mobile phone 5 hours non stop, calling back home to family, calling for prostitutes to come around. Seeing these same asylum seekers get on public transport for free, while the British family has to pay. Seeing the asylum seekers children 'taxied' to school, while 'your own' children have to stand in the rain, waiting for the bus.
Apparently asylum seekers only get ?40 a week whist they cannot work. How do they pay their electricity, gas, water, food, transport, clothing, mobile phone bill, local 'weed' dealer, 40 fags a day habit, and prostitutes, (whist visiting nightclubs at weekends) on ?40 per week?"

What is your basis for saying all that?

Mart

All true. The Swiss must be great at spin though because despite being one of the world centres of corruption people still think they're awfully nice chappies.

Watching asylum seekers on their phones constantly.....

Watching the police come to their doors because a protitute has been beaten up and complained.

Walking past them in the street and smelling weed.

Conversations with taxi drivers complaining that they don't like taxi'ing the immigrants as the council takes a long time in paying their fares to the taxi company. (the taxi drivers are all Muslim, not white BNP supporters btw).

Local newspaper articles (on the rare occasion someone has the 'bottle' to report anything).

It seems Von Boy & Guilbert are being quoted elswhere...... !laugh!

I've seen them when going to my local town about 10 miles from me,they have cars,lots of gold jewelry,always on the mobile,trying to change up huge amounts of coins in the bank (they normally get refused) using dodgy passports to get a bank account,well dressed,you never see one sleeping on a park bench like our own people cos they are treated better by our government,who pays for all this in higher income tax,council tax ect we fucking do,its not racist its a fact,they should make them work for what they are given

To be fair, immigrants aren't allowed to work if they're still waiting on their individual cases to come up.

My point is that they come from countries where they have to do back breaking work, for long hours, just to scrape by in life. Upon getting here, free housing, phone calls, health care, education, food vouchers, ?40 a week, and free public transport is a life of luxury for them. The worry of starvation and death has been lifted, and they live the dream for a few months until it becomes familiar.

They then learn about 'social services', and 'human rights groups'. Where they then learn that if they can 'talk the talk' they can claim all manner of disability benefits, and get local authorities to pay for taxi rides to school for their children. They claim they don't know enough english to travel buses, or they feel embarrassed using their free bus passes, or feel threatened, so local councils agree to their demands and contract certain taxi companies to run them around on taxpayers money.

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Anyone who doesn't believe these facts can ask any friend who's a taxi driver within reach of neighbourhoods who house populations of asylum seekers. They'll know something about it I'm sure.

what I am saying is dont pay them but make them work voluntary for the benifits they are given,if they wont do it send em back,at the end of the day its our money we are givving them with no return

There is considerable evidence to support your claim, Keith, that the Swiss did indeed allow diverted trains carrying Jews for 'resettlement in the East' in others words to Auschwitz, Treblinka, Soribor etc. There were several reports from Swiss rail workers witnessing these cargoes of human misery in the vicinity of Zuerich Hauptbahnhof.